Wow - Jorge made that an incredibly interesting read below. Opinions so amazingly lacking in

[Rich]

substance can only be formed by a certifiable idiot, no?

Not a single post agreed with his views - surely that is an indication that one might be a leetle bit sympathising with ISIS and their goal to turn Britain into an Islamic State living under Sharia Law.

I did watch the documentary last night and I must say, I was shocked and scared that these people are allowed to walk among us and applaud the many Muslim kaffirs who stand up against them. Still, so long as these pieces of human filth are allowed to spout their hate - they will continue to influence people young and old - no matter how many stand up against them.

For that reason, and that reason alone - we should give them what they want - allow them to join the so called Islamic State but make it perfectly clear that they will never be allowed back to Britain again. That way, when IS does inevitably get forced out from Iraq and Syria - they will die trying to defend it.

[Classic Jorge]

Sadly, whenever challenged, you run away just as soon as you run out of things to say which toe the party line.

[Pat Vegas]

as I am a bit thick.

[Rich]

Your opinions are so far left that I really do struggle to comprehend what you believe should be done.

It makes me feel very disappointing that an Englishman would feel this way when the way of life to which he is accustomed his coming under attack. You simply cannot stand by and do nothing.

I'm sorry - but you are behaving in a rather foolish manner. Forget that you have to play the socialist AWIMBer - it's a real issue and your ramblings don't cut it.

[Rich]

family are more sensible and haven't been brainwashed.

[Classic Jorge]

Then interrogate them to get every drop of intelligence we can out of them before placing them under strict surveillance.
I hardly think any of those were radically left wing, liberal or any other ideological stance that you clearly struggle to understand.

The main thrust of the argument was that we shouldnt make people returning stateless - as this tends to a) deter people from returning, robbing us of any intelligence and b) we shouldnt kill them as this effectively makes us no better than them.

I'm not entirely sure what you think an Englishman *should* want to do, but I'm suspecting this is because you have yet to be told.

[Classic Jorge]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

you and all you family straight in the face without a second thought. There's reportedly 2000 Brits who have gone over there to fight. Good luck having strict surveillance on all of them. All it takes is a few mistakes from the security services and you could have people being gunned down like in Paris.

[Classic Jorge]

I do love your attempt at stirring hyperbole though "shoot you and all you family straight in the face without a second thought"

This reads like a Brass Eye terrorism special.

Feel free to comment in the discussion below where we actually, despite all of our political differences, had a sensible discussion without resorting to namecalling and childish rhetoric.

Even redgunamo

[Luis Anaconda]

square root of f**k all about what is going on so I won't get involved in the debate below but I'll just post some sub-Daily Mail tripe up here and then EVERYONE WILL LOOK AT ME"

[Monty91]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34832512

[Classic Jorge]

He's a GP, his one key skill is googling stuff from Web MD

[Luis Anaconda]

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

In Billy's case, Thurrock

[Monty91]

describing something that has happened countless times. Granted, some of the victim of domestic terrorism have been shot in other parts of their body than their face, and some of the attackers may have given their actions more than a second's thought.

But the point stands, I think.

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

The hyperbole being supplied by the "and all you family straight in the face without a second thought" bit.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Classic Jorge]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Berni]

[redgunamo]

:rolleyes:

[Monty91]

If a true and accurate statement is made with a rhetorical flourish, it doesn't stop being a true and accurate statement.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Bergkamp's Brain]

clearly not :-)

[Classic Jorge]

So should we kill them, send them back to whence they came (in which case how do we go about that?) or should we have them back and subject them to some of those Prevention of Terrorism Act control orders?

I can take you through those if you would like.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Brentwood]

[Classic Jorge]

In every fight I have I preface it by asking my opponent to fill out a diversity impact statement.

I've fought so many gayers that I have an award from Stonewall

[Pokster]

[Monty91]

of these people in order to allow strict implementations of these control orders, including profiling and other discriminatory, but necessary, measures.

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

*The first option carries risk of that too, of course, but more manageable as we have more and better weapons and training than they do.

[Monty91]

at one time.

[redgunamo]

Meanwhile, cheeky bid for young Embolo?

[Classic Jorge]

But, you know, coming back from Syria would probably be a red flag in anyone's immigration control handbook

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

begins to involve shoppers, commuters and concert-goers in possibly their own towns and cities.

[Monty91]

lads and lasses. No need to upset them with any of that nasty profiling business. Not as if just 1 of the 2.5 million slipping through would do any harm.

Yeah, let's just focus on the REALLY obvious ones who keep nipping back and forth to Syria.

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

avoided your favoured profiling policies would appreciate your commitment to human rights.

[Classic Jorge]

And anyway, one of the 7/7 guys was west indian, should we profile them too?

[redgunamo]