I may have been hallucinating yesterday, but I could have sworn I heard Jeremy Corbyn advocating

[Berni]

that we build nuclear submarines with no nuclear warheads, reintroduce sympathy striking in industrial disputes and start negotiating with Argentina about the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands.

That can't be right, can it? Because those three things would be surefire ways to ensure people don't vote for him, wouldn't they? Not to mention that the first idea is actually mental, of course.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

the increasingly unhinged policies of the Labour party. I can tell his little heart isn't in it. :-(

[Pokster]

they have stuck in pension schemes by changing the tax benefit...

but I suppose if the opposition are in such a state you might as well stick through as many disliked policy's as possible as you will still win the next election

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It's the only available defence now.

It is apparent that JC has not the tiniest wish to see the Labour party elected. I suspect he is simply trying to re-introduce the policies of the extreme left, for so many years consigned to the SWP, back into the mainstream argument so that, whilst unpopular, they at least become 'thinkable' again.

He is, in fact, sacrificing his political credibility in order to pave the way for the election of a truly Socialist government in 2025 :-(

[Berni]

And why? Because the opposition front bench is populated by idiots and raging trots.

[Ashberto]

[Berni]

Besides, Jez has already screwed that one by saying that not only would he not have any nukes on board, but even if he did, he wouldn't use them.

For his own sake, I hope Corbyn doesn't play poker. :rolleyes:

[Supermac1976]

Daft auld c**t has turned politics into some kind of viewer's letters from Swap Shop & it sounds utterly pathetic.

[Classic Jorge]

Safe to say I agree with him on most of these issues

[Pokster]

[Berni]

With the result that Labour didn't get back in for another 14 years - and then only because they'd toned down the socialism massively.

[Pokster]

[Berni]

The point is that they are all electoral poison. :-)

[Monty91]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

Elections are won by 44-65 year olds.

[Berni]

Plus, of course, Japan has a bit of history with nuclear weapons, which makes them a bit squeamish about them.

[Monty91]

choice scrawled along your shaft? :-(

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Berni]

[Pokster]

on conventional defence would be a better use of funds in the world we live in today?

[Berni]

rather than low-level threats) and international clout, a nuclear capability is stunning value-for-money.

[Supermac1976]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Peter]

Then jorge agreeing with it is probably the closest you will get to surefire bet :-)

[Pokster]

[Berni]

[Monty91]

Which is a bit like saying having a burglar alarm didn't stop my house from burning down.

[Berni]

adult can make without apparently seeing the fundamental flaws in it.

[Peter]

More than one or two of them sit around their local labour party meetings banging on about crap like this while secretly breathing a sigh of relief at the sight of another conservative government.

There are plenty of genuine ones as well but far too many ****s who just want to bang on about what a c**t tony blair is. God help the poor ******* who has to pick up the pieces from this mess in a couple of years.

[Berni]

power), I simply find them utterly bewildering. They must know they're not going to get elected with these policies, but they carry on with them. What do they actually think a political party is for?

[Monty91]

As fundamentally retarded as the point may be, as a ‘message' to push the anti-Trident agenda among a highly suggestible and ignorant electorate, it works pretty well .

[Berni]

minds. That argument is too stupid to stand up under any scrutiny. Indeed, it's more a slogan than an argument.

[Monty91]

scrutiny. And for those who are, there are, even you must admit, many prominent individuals who are against Trident and who span the political spectrum, including many from a distinguished military background.

[Pokster]

have also mentioned being sceptical that the cost is worth it

[Berni]

and RAF) who would rather the money were spent on them than the Navy. Hardly unbiased opinion.

[Pokster]

[Peter]

Set up to promote the interests of the labour movement and the working class it was hijacked by middle class socialist ideology right from the start.

That tension still exists between an intellectual exercise and a party of political purpose. I think you can guess where i sit. Jorge is an odd one in that he seems to actually believevsome of this stuff with a passion.

He is rare. And usually wants nothing to do with the labour party.....

[Berni]

[Peter]

People who have no interest in the subject will generally support buying a bigger, better weapon system, just to be on the safe side.

You know,cthe way idiots always want you to buy one more big name striker every year. Just in case we need it.