Apparently the Labour victory in Oldham is 'even more impressive' because the weather was poor.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Labour voters allegedly are less likely to make the effort to get to a polling station if it is rainy or cold.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

[Berni]

The thing is f**king farcical. You're right, unfortunately, that because it's UKIP making the complaint, it's going to be quietly brushed under the carpet.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

the last general elections in this seat and there was lack of clarity as to who their main rivals would be, UKIP started from a low base and their result is quite impressive.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I woudl imagine all voter types are allegedly less likely to make the effort to get to a polling station if it is rainy or cold.

[PSRB]

friends up here in the North and those down South

Almost all here seem to think the Syria thing is wrong and Corbyn is a decent Labour leader......

[Brentwood]

who want to try to remove the incumbent party

Like this lady for example

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5916678.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Kerrie-Webb.jpg

[PSRB]

in poor weather than Labour voters. There was a whole thing about it in the lead up to the General Election

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

A cursory glance at the informationsuperhighway reveals that this theory appears to be acknowledged and founded in fact :shrug:

[Brentwood]

head outside when it's raining cats and dogs

[PSRB]

or too busy whining about how unfair it all is

[Berni]

working classes (lazy). It's only the Asians (hem, hem) and the Guardian readers they can actually rely on.

Mind you, given that UKIP's vote in this case would have also been mostly white and working class, I suspect they probably suffered more by virtue of the weather than did Labour.

[Berni]

I still feel guilty about that.

[Pokster]

think the Tory party and it's London based/educated leaders couldn't give 2 hoots about the North

[Luis Anaconda]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

[Brentwood]

Sounds pretty legit to me

[Pokster]

[Pokster]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Oxford, mate. Up the M40.

Up north.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Pokster]

[Pokster]

apart from a brief flirtation with Lib Dems in the 90's

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I know your sort all the same.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

A man may have reasons for making seemingly unimaginable decisions. We are not privy to the workings of his soul.

[Berni]

[Berni]

sold my southern birthright for a mess of pottage. :-(

[Luis Anaconda]

it can happen in a marginal but I can't find anywhere what percentage of the vote was likely to be postal. Labour seem to have such a stranglehold on the seat and the guy who won was already recognised as a popular local politician - makes you wonder why they would bother

[Berni]

The electoral commission's report earlier this year highlighted Oldham as a major risk for Postal vote fraud, so there's every reason to look very carefully at the voting in this by-election.

What's mystifying is that it could be stopped simply by restricting the use of postal votes back to where they were before they were opened up. What has the current government to gain by not reforming the system?

[Luis Anaconda]

shocking seens

[barrybueno]

I've never quite recovered from those tragic times, thanks :-(

[Berni]

No that those things are excuses, of course.

[barrybueno]

Won't make that mistake again.

Then again my vote is pointless since the Labour c**ts got up to no good with the borders. I'm in a Labour ward :puke:

[Berni]

[barrybueno]

[Peter]

It might be taken more seriously and not seen as more standard knee-jerk bluster from ukip.

[Peter]

You are right though, the obvious solution is to restrict the use of the postal vote. It isnt actually difficult.

[Berni]

It's not a purely Labour thing. There have been instances involving all three major parties in England. It's an ethnicity thing, I'm afraid.