Neg, which teams players are good but arent dopers?

[Classic Jorge]

You do realise you're basically naming everyone who's won anything.

Why is it that the UK dont seem to believe their own people are doping?

[Pat Vegas]

[Classic Jorge]

I dont understand what these people expect when they have sports which are basically down to no skill or technique, just strength and endurance. Athletics, cycling, all that business.

I'd imagine they'd do drugs mostly just to stave off the boredom.

['Neg]

D'OH!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/france/79637 62/Former-France-doctor-claims-1998-World-Cup-team-blood-sam ples-suspect.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/france/7963762/Former-France-doctor-claims-1998-World-Cup-team-blood-samples-suspect.html)

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

How else do you explain the collective belief that Sebco will sort everything out?

['Neg]

And Linford of course. How on earth did that nandrolone get into his system? But that was a different era anyway. It doesn't count.

Dwain Chambers is the only real cheat. We all know that.

[Luis Anaconda]

charged with dealing with the mess. Nothing I've seen or read has suggested he has some sort of magic wand that will make everything go all right again.

Incidentally, did you not see or read about the Panorama doc recently that questioned some of the "cleaness" or some of the most high-profile athletes?

[Pat Vegas]

[Berni]

I think it's fair to say that most people prefer to think that their teams are clean, but how you get from that to people in the UK not believing UK sports teams and people cheat I've no idea.

The whole business of supporting sports is based on the simple idea that if your team wins it's because it's better. To believe that your team wins because it's systematically cheating undermines the whole illusion, so people tend not to do it.

[Pat Vegas]

like calling yourself Sepp.

[Berni]

Nice early 90s video game reference for you all, there. :old:

[Luis Anaconda]

Though he might change his name quickly now he is probably in Putin's bad books

[Pat Vegas]

Same as baywatch.

[Monty91]

"We have reached an era in which we glorify the winner, without looking at the means or the method. And 10 years later we realise the guy was a cheat. And during that time, the one that came second suffered. He didn’t get recognition."

That's not doping he's talking about. It's Mourinho :shrug:

[Pat Vegas]

the fact most are young and stupid and are loaded and party all the time I would suspect a few more high profile drug failures.

[Brentwood]

Surely it doesn't take that long to collect 11 bottles of piss

[Classic Jorge]

SF1 :nod:

['Neg]

[Classic Jorge]

People who need to be addressed by their titles are utter scum

[Ashberto]

You might want to re-think that.

[Classic Jorge]

No mention of the Americans - noted drug cheats across loads of sports - or the UK, who've had a few incidents themselves

['Neg]

[Monty91]

[Pat Vegas]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

[Luis Anaconda]

He's been fairly explicit in criticising both Chelsea and Marseilles in the past so why he use such subterfuge when he can attack them outright is strange.

Calls a c**t a c**t does our Arsene,

[Ashberto]

But in that quote he is talking chemicals. Or bent refs.