I accidentally watched a Michael Moore Movie.

[Pat Vegas]

Capitalist *******s! :furious:

George Bush what a devil :furious:

[Classic Jorge]

The "Now watch this drive" bit is genius

[Pat Vegas]

[Berni]

Oh, and when some of the points made are simply made up, of course.

[Classic Jorge]

[Pat Vegas]

[Berni]

This revelation has rocked my understanding of the world to its foundations, tbh. I had thought every word printed in them was the unadorned truth up until now. :-(

Heavy sarcasm aside, there's no way a piece with the inaccuracies, misrepresentations and just plain lies told by Moore in Fahrenheit 9/11 would have got published in any reputable newspaper here or in America. Journalism has proper standards of evidence, whereas propaganda as practised by Moore does not. The fact that their Op/Ed pages may have a political bias doesn't make it OK for their journos just to make stuff up. When they do that and get caught, they are professionally destroyed.

Oh, and 'Nearly every newspaper'? Which are these unaffiliated newspapers you read?

[Classic Jorge]

I like the criticism people like Michael Moore get, especially as it all seems to be on the basis of a lack of balance. He never dresses it up as balanced, he's a polemicist who just happens to be wittier than a lot of the people at Fox news, who get away with a million more inaccuracies and misrepresentations. Of course, one pretends to be a news channel, and gets away with it which is even more worrying.

I dont read PJ O'Rourke to be informed either, he's a funny writer, and a bloody good essayist to boot. Moore is a similar documentarian.

[Berni]

left of it.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

Laurie Penny is not in danger of being called right wing any time soon.

[Snin]

one..ifnd reading i, Telegraph , mirror and mail covers my needs..guardian i find unreadable lefty student gay loving feminist climate bothering cnuts