the noninclusion of bellerin is very very worrying. fear we're gonna get smacked.

[eastgermanautos]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

If you are hung up on CL qualification to 2016 then our results in the last 2 games will decide that, assuming other games go as expected.

[Snin]

[Luis Anaconda]

*I'd take a draw


People do seem to forget Debuchy is a rather good player who has hardly played for a year. Form/class etc etc

[eastgermanautos]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Not really the spirit all the same S.

A lot of people have their evening and/or weekend moods largely dictated by these events.

[Monty91]

I mean, to the extent that if we don't, we are likely to be eliminated?

[Luis Anaconda]

I have no idea - of course a Bayern win and Olympiakos win makes us f**ked really

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Tenterhooks.

[Ashberto]

us and Olympiakos both have 9 points. So if it is down to head-to-head and we beat then 2-0 over there we'd go through.

[Luis Anaconda]

oh wait, I am getting confused now

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Absolutely nothing with regards to next round participation decided tonight.

As Ash has pointed out, lose tonight and win the last two games v Zagreb and the Greeks = 9 points, the same points total as the Greeks assuming they lose on match day 5 to Munchen.

[Pokster]

so the only thing it changes is that any win in Greece will do, otherwise it is bettering their result at our ground

[Pokster]

Scenario A) we in tonight, Olympiakos win tonight... we need to win our last 2 games to qualify (would finish 1st in all likelyhood), or draw aginst Zagreb and win in Greece to finish second.

Scenario B) We draw tonight..... assume Olympiakos win tonight then we need to win our last 2 games (likely to finish second)

Scenario C) We lose tonight and Olympiakos win... we need to win our last 2 games, get a better resulkt in Greece than they got at our ground and we will finish second (assuming they lose in Germany)

so in other words we are likely to need to win both our last 2 games whatever the result tonight

[Snin]