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Ashberto
10-05-2015, 11:16 PM
Talking sense about Syria, Iraq and Libya imo
- Middle East Would Be More Stable With Saddam and Gadhafi
- US largely has no idea who these rebels they’ve been funding and arming are, and predicting that Syria would go the way of Libya and Iraq, toward more chaos, if Assad was ousted.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/trump-middle-east-woul d-be-more-stable-hussein-gadhafi-n438156 (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/trump-middle-east-would-be-more-stable-hussein-gadhafi-n438156)

Mo Britain less Europe
10-05-2015, 11:25 PM

Ashberto
10-06-2015, 12:05 AM
But removing Assad will most likely only hand the country over to ISIS and AQ. This is apparently what David Cameron wants.

Unless the five remaining rebels that the US gave all that money to who haven't defected to ISIS can form a government.

Mo Britain less Europe
10-06-2015, 07:20 AM

Berni
10-06-2015, 09:00 AM
Now the west needs ISIS to act as a bulwark against Russian expansionism - something they're perfectly capable of doing, since Russia's military capability appears to be about 30-40 years behind the times.

Berni
10-06-2015, 09:01 AM

Luis Anaconda
10-06-2015, 09:02 AM

Berni
10-06-2015, 09:03 AM

Luis Anaconda
10-06-2015, 09:20 AM

Rich
10-06-2015, 09:36 AM

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 09:39 AM
I thought they were an affront to everything we beleived in as a western democracy and also that the russians had been cured of their nasty socialism by being exposed to the beautiful, sacred lite of modern global capitalism.

Are you seriously suggesting you'd take ISIS over Russia?

Geopolitics is hard

Luis Anaconda
10-06-2015, 09:44 AM

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 09:45 AM

Luis Anaconda
10-06-2015, 09:48 AM
Big Bad Russia a threat to the world again; madcap right-wing leader famed for appearing on the screen coming to power in the US; the New Romantics making a comeback in the charts...

Obviously only the last one is to be truly feared

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 09:51 AM

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 09:53 AM
isis though with their caliphate have made some impressive strides. burning people alive, sex slaves, all that.

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 09:57 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
10-06-2015, 09:58 AM
Moving away from the loss of lives etc, quite superb.

Wd nutters.

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 09:58 AM

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 10:00 AM

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 10:00 AM

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 10:01 AM

eastgermanautos
10-06-2015, 10:02 AM

Berni
10-06-2015, 10:03 AM
As such, yes, you take ISIS over Putin.

So I for one applaud the brave and principled stand being made by our friends in Islamic State against unfettered Russian imperial aggression and believe we ought to do everything in our power to support them.

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 10:05 AM

Berni
10-06-2015, 10:06 AM
Because - apart from anything else - I'm pretty sure there's laws against that.

Berni
10-06-2015, 10:08 AM
All this grubbing around fighting piddling little wars in deserts against religious fanatics is beneath all of our dignity. We should be facing off against the Russian Bear like in the good old days.

Billy Goat Sverige
10-06-2015, 10:14 AM

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 10:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6U9T3R3EQg

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 10:27 AM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tri7f1A11rnm1ldo1_r1_500.gif

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
10-06-2015, 10:36 AM
Beyond cool.

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 10:39 AM

Billy Goat Sverige
10-06-2015, 10:47 AM
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTppj-xgGpuZsKak-VsSmY8YLK_kqCH-BhgXJyZtMDLsGG1PQR1

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
10-06-2015, 10:51 AM
They gave me velcro ones in Rowans a few weeks ago. The fact I was with my son saved the fella behind the counter from a serious kicking.

I channeled my anger and wiped the floor with the lad. He has to learn to lose.

Billy Goat Sverige
10-06-2015, 10:54 AM
for about 2 days afterwards. Failing to stretch was a schoolboy error.

Jake
10-06-2015, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't touch a thing where other people's feet have been involved from that gaff.

Berni
10-06-2015, 11:07 AM
and they were playing that on a loop. Trying to explain to the kids that we grew up with that and the threat of nuclear oblivion every day of our youths was almost impossible. They just can't grasp how all-pervasive the threat seemed.

They were freaked out by all the typewriters, telex machines and telephones with dials, ffs, so what chance was there of explaining constant, nagging, existential dread to them?

Brentwood
10-06-2015, 11:09 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
10-06-2015, 11:09 AM
My main issue was one of embarrassment as my momentum on one of my throws caused me to more or less fall over in the alley. Thankfully it was about 11:30am and thus quite empty.

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 11:11 AM
Cue a whole class of open mouthed, teary eyed schoolkids in silent shock for the rest of the day.

Lucky we're not going back to those da....oh

Berni
10-06-2015, 11:12 AM
of the sickbay area is still plumbed in. I discovered this when my stepson decided to flush it. :rolleyes:

Berni
10-06-2015, 11:14 AM
everything you've ever cared about could be obliterated in seconds to help a chap put things in perspective.

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 11:17 AM
Or at least 'he who conquers will probably die in a huge superheated fireball, or if they're lucky a terrible, crippling radiation sickness anyway'

Berni
10-06-2015, 11:19 AM
would be really rubbish. I can't even imagine how the place would start to smell after a couple of weeks. And one would be cooped ip with simply ghastly people. :-(

No, much better the fireball, thanks.

Classic Jorge
10-06-2015, 11:22 AM
...reach was oddly comforting.

Jake
10-06-2015, 11:23 AM
Having been spoilt by the high budget fakery of Disneyland, Universal and the ilk, I essentially thought that underground shed thing was one big smelly joke, right down to the old props.

Made for war I am.

Berni
10-06-2015, 11:26 AM
a long way in four minutes and thus created a world-beating cross-country team.