The Liberal Democrat Conference - Seriously, who gives a f**k?

[Berni]

That should be the slogan, tbh.

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, they tried to inject some reason, sense and evidence based policy into the whole business but it clearly didnt go well.

Shouldve bailed on the coalition at least 18 months before the election imo

[7evens]

The only time I ever recall any interest in the party was when old Jeremy Thorpe was embroiled in a spot of unseemliness

[Snin]

I can imagine its just a tad marmite

[Berni]

[Luis Anaconda]

Found out it was Tim Fallon. I had to look up who he was.

Then I realised I didn't care

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Certainly not in an area where Orange / Green may be deemed in any way offensive.

[Pokster]

[Berni]

;-)

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

aren't worth a jot.... well 2million people voted for them however messed up they are

[Ashberto]

[PSRB]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

[Pokster]

who wants a party with james Blunt as the most exciting musician

[PSRB]

[Berni]

[Berni]

policies. I can't help it if there's only one of them, can I?

[Pokster]

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

Anyway, we're owned by China now so who cares?

[Classic Jorge]

And look how well that served everyone

[Berni]

[Pokster]

[Pokster]

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

I dont think anybody was served particularly well by the centre ground consensus, apart from big businesses and people wanting to fleece the state for personal gain. Look at the gap in social mobility, for instance.

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

[Berni]

of social impact as - for instance - the Great Depression of the 30s? Really?

[Classic Jorge]

http://theorwellprize.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/animal-farm1.jpg

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/britain-has-take n-longer-to-recover-from-recession-than-at-any-time-since-th e-south-sea-bubble-9645218.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/britain-has-taken-longer-to-recover-from-recession-than-at-any-time-since-the-south-sea-bubble-9645218.html)

[Ashberto]

giving rise to the most brutal and powerful group of religious fanatics since f**k nose when which has contributed to a large-scale refugee crisis.

Yeah, pretty minor.

[Brentwood]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-34306997

[Classic Jorge]

Meanwhile, whilst negotiating these deals with COMMUNIST CHINA - Corbyn is called a "Threat to our national security".

As much as I hate them I do admire anybody with that amount of brass neck.

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

He does also make a lot more sense than the majority of the others who are mostly either lining their pockets or chasing a knighthood

[Peter]

And you know it :-)

[Brentwood]

http://order-order.com/2012/10/18/david-blanchflowers-terrib le-tips/#:cPSO6lN-4k1+tQ (http://order-order.com/2012/10/18/david-blanchflowers-terrible-tips/#:cPSO6lN-4k1+tQ)

[Peter]

Blatant fishing :hehe:

[Classic Jorge]

Even the ONS are getting in on the action, no surprise they're being abolished.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-32444799

[Berni]

Between the three things you mention, there are still far fewer dead than from the conflict in Northern Ireland.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

if I may say so.

And as for 'complete destruction' it's just ridicules hyperbole.

[Pokster]

thta , as is pointed out, is having far reaching consequences to Europe and the middle East

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

It's also totally meaningless *******s that ignores the underlying levels of national wealth and infrastructure in it's analysis, but I'm glad you had fun with it.

[Berni]

[Berni]

is what we're discussing.

[Classic Jorge]

so that would actually answer your question, at least before you moved the goalposts.

Also, we're probably not really anywhere near being able to assess the impact of this latest downturn, are we?

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

the millions of people who have fled their country's. these don't count :shrug: I do love your simplistic view of things like this

[Berni]

the Great Depression with the recent downturn. You still haven't suggested for a moment that that the two are even vaguely comparable.

[Berni]

As for 'refugees', well all I'd say is different now is that people from ****ty countries now have the cash to make it to nice ones, which they never used to. Another win for capitalism there.

[Pokster]

I would suggest with groth hardly above the level it was at 8 yrs ago and average earnings (until very recently) rising slower than inflation, prosperity is a hard claim to make

[Classic Jorge]

And in terms of scale and length of the recession comet tail they could possibly be longer.

Also, I cant help but feel you're doing that "british casualties" thing here again as you've completely ignored the fact that the 2007/8 crash has had reverberations in the eurozone in 2011/12 and the far east right now.

[Classic Jorge]

[Snin]

totally hilarious

[Classic Jorge]

it's the effect it's had on the peace, security and prosperity of society, which is your original argument.

Also, the main reason these people are fleeing where they are is the sheer amount of weaponry ISIS have manged to acquire through nicking all of the kit us and the US left in Iraq and buying more using the seized oilwells in the area.

1-1 (capitalism, own goal)

[Ashberto]

The glibness with which you assume 20 years of peace is far simpler than the analysis which .. gasp ... understands the cause and effect between smashing up Iraq and Libya, and what happened next.

[Peter]

That is superb :hehe: :hehe: