So this chap in the states who shot the cameraman and reporter was black, motivated by the

[Berni]

Charleston killings and targeted white people against whom he held race-based grudges.

But nobody is calling him a terrorist - just a nutter with a gun and a grudge.

So where, I wonder, does this leave those who claimed the killer in Charleston would have been labelled a terrorist had he not been white? Only it would seem to me that this case fundamentally disproves that rather silly argument. :rubchin:

[Pokster]

some white people had been racist recently..... or he was just another American nutter with a gun :shrug:

[Berni]

instantly lead to the shooter being labelled a terrorist, whereas the murder in Charleston did not because that shooter was white.

My point is that the reaction to this crime has conclusively proved this contention to be false.

[Luis Anaconda]

a horrific event

[Pokster]

[Berni]

was such a wrongheaded suggestion that I feel it's justified in this instance.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Americans are, without a doubt, the most f**ked up of all earthly organisms.

[Monty91]

footage or photos of the incident.

[The Tony]

At least 30 minimum!

[Berni]

http://i.localbreakingnews.org/multimedia/archive/03419/Bryce_Williams_wea_3419927b.jpg

[Berni]

moral and less abject humans than you are? :shrug:

[Berni]

American women sometimes have can make them all look pretty nondescript.

[Monty91]

the close-up images or footage of the young reporter's face as a gun was pointed at her face and she faced her impending death?

[Rich]

[Berni]

shooting and that's it.

[Berni]

could never have guessed before that that might have been the case before clicking play, could you?

What the f**k is wrong with you people?

[Luis Anaconda]

[Pokster]

[Monty91]

Sure you didn't.

[Berni]

go right ahead thinking whatever you like. I can't stop you.

I can only tell you the truth, I can't make you believe me. :shrug:

[Rich]

[Berni]

What in God's name would you hope to gain from watching such a thing?

[Rich]

And you don't see any wounds in the video.

[Monty91]

take a peek at those images.

[Brentwood]

[Pokster]

[Brentwood]

[Berni]

I have not watched it. If you mean images in newspapers, then no, I haven't seen them, either. I have only read the story online and have been careful not to click on any videos. As a consequence, I have not seen anything that I would find shocking or harrowing because I don't need to see those things. I have seen an image of just before the shooting and I have seen a blurred still of the man with the gun. I have read descriptions of the events. That is it.

If you check the coverage on The Guardian website (which is where I have gleaned most of my information from), you will find that it is quite possible to inform oneself about this event without watching anything unduly upsetting. Why do you find it so hard to believe that? :shrug:

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

right to see footage of every ghastly news event and so we don't seek it out and don't feel compelled to watch it just because it exists. Alternatively, it might just be that one reaches an age where you realise that there are enough upsetting and distressing things in this world without going out of your way to witness more? :shrug:

[Luis Anaconda]

post footage of that plane crash the other day on social media. Sad seens, b

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I don't know; I suppose we grew up with war films, but certainly people seem more hardened to 'real' violence.

[Brentwood]

[Berni]

Today I suspect it would be regarded as rather tame. :-(

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

turns me right over.

[Berni]

For all that I've enjoyed some of his movies, I've always suspected that Scorcese is a massive wrongun, tbh. Likes violence and hero-worships violent psychopaths a little too much for my taste.

[Berni]

On the rare occasions I do, it's occurred to me so late that I usually miss whatever I was trying to film. I think I can certainly say that the last thing I would think of doing in a disaster-type situation would be to film it.

[Ashberto]

[Hendon Gooner (Only Easy Day Was Yesterday))]

talk about chips on the shoulder - this bloke had a large portion of them....

[Berni]

Yes, he's not done much for the diversity lobby this lad.

http://i.localbreakingnews.org/multimedia/archive/03419/Bryce_Williams_wea_3419927b.jpg

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