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Monty91
08-06-2015, 09:45 AM
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/if-you-think-tu be-drivers-are-overpaid-you-dont-understand-how-capitalism-w orks (http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/08/if-you-think-tube-drivers-are-overpaid-you-dont-understand-how-capitalism-works)

Luis Anaconda
08-06-2015, 09:47 AM

Red N White Army
08-06-2015, 09:53 AM
http://www.citymetric.com/transport/six-reasons-londoners-sh ould-probably-stop-whining-about-tube-strike-1290 (http://www.citymetric.com/transport/six-reasons-londoners-should-probably-stop-whining-about-tube-strike-1290)

IUFG
08-06-2015, 09:54 AM

Pat Vegas
08-06-2015, 09:54 AM

Luis Anaconda
08-06-2015, 09:56 AM
All that said, it's about time the tube did offer all night services, and TfL would be negligent if it wasn't trying to make it happen as cost effectively as possible. I'm not saying that the unions are entirely in the right, and management entirely in the wrong on this one. I don't actually think I know.

But my point is – neither do you.

Berni
08-06-2015, 09:59 AM
like the free movement of labour, fair competition and wages being set by the market rather than by the coercion of unions. The only reason these guys wield this earning power is that they are not subject to market forces and so exist outside the capitalist system.

Luis Anaconda
08-06-2015, 10:01 AM
It was so fundamentally obvious

Pat Vegas
08-06-2015, 10:03 AM
for 50k.

Skills include pressing 2 buttons and working weird hours. Good luck.

As I said yesterday. when you become a tube driver (which is impossible as it's like a big club only advertising internally)
You know what to expect. They are already paid accordingly.

Let's see how many 50k paying jobs you will find for unskilled* workers around the country. Not many.

*they are skilled in tube stuff from the training course.

Ashberto
08-06-2015, 10:04 AM
He can speak for himself. A robot isn't doing my job any time soon.

Berni
08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
idea of what capitalism is, so I felt pointing it out might be an idea.

Snin
08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
and that's just a couple of buttons

IUFG
08-06-2015, 10:10 AM
I do recall this case...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1461294/Partial-victo ry-for-Tube-man-sacked-for-playing-squash.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1461294/Partial-victory-for-Tube-man-sacked-for-playing-squash.html)

32grand to 48grand in 11 years? Not bad increments imo

Berni
08-06-2015, 10:12 AM
capitalism is, to be fair.

eastgermanautos
08-06-2015, 01:09 PM