WD Lee Nelson

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

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[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

unpleasant as Blatter.

I hope they hang him.

[Snin]

[Berni]

Making the 'point' that FIFA is corrupt is surely among the most redundant satirical statements on earth at the moment? Right up there with pointing out the dead nazi **** Hitler was a bit racist?

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

Blatter, not you.

[Classic Jorge]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Berni]

So does this Nelson fellow have some sort of mental illness that compels him to make this sort of unfunny and embarrassing spectacle of himself?

[7evens]

If he could have exploited a loophole in order to have distanced himself further and kept his position, he would have lept at the chance.

[Berni]

It's just boring.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

What is racism but rudeness?

What if theft, if not rudeness?

Murder? Rudeness.

[Berni]

But surely you accept that there are people to whom it behoves one to be rude? Leftists, Tottenham fans, Asian families at weddings - those sort of people?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

They are as beasts of the field; that is to say, as thick as pig****.

I have decided to drink to excess as early as possible; thus, by the tiome the speeches are over and socialating commences, I shall be too much of a dribbling wreck to engage anyone in well-meaning conversation on the subject of racial harmony.

[Classic Jorge]

This one was better than his Kanye moment, which was basically Jarvis Cocker without the amusing arse based moves.

[Classic Jorge]

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[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Why are you so rude, j?

[Berni]

When are the nuptials? Will the groom ride in on a pony or an elephant or whatnot? Because I would like to see that. :hehe:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

As you can imagine, I know nothing of the detail whatsoever.

I expect it will be a terrific bash.

[Classic Jorge]

Jesus, it's one rule for tax dodging inbreds who own half of the uk and another for us workaday joes.

[7evens]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

there? It's just 'small children and their mother are encouraged to make a comical Nazi salute for the camera eighty-odd years ago'. Big f**king deal imo. :shrug: What on earth are we supposed to be making of it?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Royal family. I just wonder what pleasure you take from being so rude. Are you possessed by demons, or something?

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

So that's the royals, Churchill and Thatcher. It's amazing that we won, really.

[Classic Jorge]

It's why Chief and I get on so well.

[Snin]

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[Berni]

Surely you'd have to be an actual mental defective not to realise how utterly f**king idiotic you'd sound trying to make any sort of political point based on such a thing?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Furthermore, why would you make such statements to me, knowing that I might find them mildly offensive?

There is a badness inside you making you wish to hurt people, j.

Do you ever torture small animals? With lighters, or pliers, that sort of thing?

Can't we all be nice? I want everyone to be nice to everyone. :-(

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

and Buckingham Palace was a front for Her Majesty's Zyklon B production facility, which is how she got rich, yes, selling Zyklon B to the Jewish-Amerikan banking conspirass, no, wait, that was Thatcher :shout:

[Classic Jorge]

And, save for flies which are *******s, I've never hurt any living thing.

[Berni]

You're getting the heavy sarcasm, yes? :-|

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, you wouldve thought she'd known better what with all the unpleasantness.

[Berni]

Do you apply the same strictures to all the left-wing 'intellectuals' who spent the 1930s, 40s and 50s supporting Stalin, j? Only I'd say that they had rather less excuse for their behaviour than the Duchess of York had for hers.

[Classic Jorge]

They'd only banned trades unions, disolved the Reichstag and restricted free speech in 1933 though, so you can see why the royals were such big fans.

[Berni]

about which they had no f**king idea whatsoever.

You're forgetting, of course, that at that point, Germany had only had democracy for just over a decade and to the British mind, they would see no reason why the Germans should stick to democracy. Thus, the things you describe were not seen as harbingers of anything terrible, merely the Germans going back to doing things the way they had before. To judge them in the light of our hindsight is utterly ludicrous - as is using a tiny, silent vignette of a few people's lives 82 years ago to judge them and score cheap points.

[Classic Jorge]

[Snin]

he had been for a while..it wasn't really a secret

[Snin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/dead nazi ****_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power#Move_towards_power_. 281925.E2. 80.931930.29

its not like they were loveable chaps from 1920 to 1930 and 1933 is it ?

[Berni]

in the way we do now. A world in which autocracies were thought of as just another form of government. A world in which the concept of human rights was dimly understood - if at all. A world in which anti-semitism and other forms or racial prejudice were considered pretty matter-of-factly.

If totalitarian autocrat took over Germany today, we'd all jump out of our skins - why? Because of what happened between 1933-45. But that hadn't happened then, so nobody in this country considered Germany or Hitler a particular threat or something to worry about. Indeed, they saw him as a welcome bulwark against Communism, which was - not unreasonably - considered the real threat to liberal western democracies.

Yes, all the stuff was there in Mein Kampf if you chose to look, but no reasonable person would have bothered reading it and - even if they had - would have taken it with a pinch of salt.

[Berni]

Assad. Sure, he's a nasty piece of work, but that's his own country's business and at least he's a bulwark against the real enemy (ISIS in our case, communism in theirs).

However, if Assad were to suddenly precipitate a world war, you'd look a bit silly with hindsight, wouldn't you? But it wouldn't really be your fault since you can't predict the future.

[Classic Jorge]

I presume that's also the answer you'd defend edward's symapthies with?

[Berni]

You have to remember that this was the same chap who was thought of very fondly as Prince of Wales because he went around Welsh mining villages saying 'Something must be done' about about the poverty, squalor, etc. I think his heart was probably in approximately the right place, but like rather dim, naive people everywhere, he sought simplistic solutions - be they left or right wing. I'm very glad he didn't become King as he'd have been a liability, but I don't think he was a Nazi.

Equally, though, I feel no compunction to defend him.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

I just said I didn't think he was a Nazi, for all that he might have flirted with some of it.

[redgunamo]

Rather like international football, I guess. But one really needs to understand the traditions, customs, language etc. of that country in order to get that.

Of course, very few actually do or even care to http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/ohwell.gif