Meanwhile in Greece...

[Classic Jorge]

"shhh, keep your head down!"

"I think he can see us through the curtains"

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/frightened-man-hiding-behind-sofa-isolated-white-background-37472421.jpg

[Luis Anaconda]

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/grease/images/3/37/Sandy-grease-2.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20121226055242

hubba hubba

[The Tony]

Stacy Herbert :ole:

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

for its lack of democratic accountability, tendency to bully and dictate policy to nation states, government by unelected technocrat and contempt for the democratic will of sovereign states.

Now I could be wrong, but those sound remarkably similar to the views that have been expressed by the anti-EU camp for years, but which have only served to see them dismissed as 'swivel-eyed loons' and similar by those self-same Guardian readers.

Most confusing.

[Classic Jorge]

Crucially though, it doesnt go all frothy about sovereignty and takes a slightly more pragmatic stance against it.

[Luis Anaconda]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/d17a7499f75c8daba8da3eb90a1898aa/tumblr_mik0z6hvIe1qlygcgo1_250.gif

[Berni]

I'd say it's quite difficult to make the argument for it as a force for unity, mutual support, fiscal stability and benign democratic government right now.

[Berni]

of the menopause.

[Classic Jorge]

I do think it's got the right principles though, and I think in the long term it'll be better off without Greece, even if it will be a massive shame to lose them.

[Classic Jorge]

(seen here in high school)

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/140512/luke-perry-300.jpg

[Luis Anaconda]

She was 33 and on her third marriage by the time of making Grease :hehe:

Only one of the other Pink Ladies was in her 20s. ONJ was 30 as well

[Berni]

good times because everyone just sits back and enjoys the ride on the gravy train. However, in bad times, people will tend to say awkward things like: 'Hang on. Who exactly put these guys in charge?' This problem will only get worse with time.

[Classic Jorge]

Even in spain, ireland and portugal, where the euroausterity has hit pretty hard, there's still not much noticeable scepticism. Also, it's still looking likely that greece's referendum will yield a pro-eu result, even now.

[Berni]

they'll bend over and take it - it's what they're used to.

However, it's more problematic in proper countries.

[Classic Jorge]

It's weird, this kneejerk nationalist argument against a union.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Berni]

Despite the f**king thing having been run for their benefit for decades. :hehe:

[Classic Jorge]

It's so f**king embarassing being british in europe sometimes

[Berni]

The fact that we've been proved absolutely correct in our scepticism in a number of areas - not least the disaster area that is the f**king Euro - doesn't alter your feelings one jot.

We distance ourselves because the experience of a millennium has taught us that the interests of the UK and the interests of continental Europe are very far from being the same thing.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

demand his steak well done, it turns my stomach, it really does. :thumbup:

[redgunamo]

Very rare indeed, in the better establishments.

Oddly enough.