Just watched the ISIS video of the fellas being blown up in a car and drowned in a cage.

[Monty91]

Actually think I may vomit. My own fault, obviously...

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

performed on someone I really dislike, and who genuinely deserves to experience a painful and humiliating death, like Tim Payton.

[Berni]

In other words, what the f**k is wrong with you, man?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

privacy in their agonies?

[Rich]

However, I do understand why one may feel compelled to view it.

[Classic Jorge]

link me up, bruv

[Berni]

utterly lost their moral compass that they are unable morally to link something that is happening on a computer screen to something horrific that happened to an actual human being just like them and with all the same hopes, dreams, loves and fears as them.

For them to engage in this act of totally prurient moral failure and lack of empathy and then to start telling us about how they f**king feel afterwards is an act so solipsistic as to be almost pathological.

Someone tells you there is a video of people drowning or being blown up and you actually seek it out?

I repeat the question: what the f**k is wrong with you?

[Mc Gooner]

[redgunamo]

That's what M was doing, I suspect.

Otherwise it's just talk, I reckon.

[Mc Gooner]

[Monty91]

[Berni]

Like most others, I have essentially grown up with the JFK footage because again, it is a hugely significant event in contemporary history.

Neither event compares in any way to seeking out footage of the deaths of men whose names you don't even know in order to get some sort of cheap thrill.

[Monty91]

sense.

ISIS are the world's most dangerous terrorist group and their acts of violence are unprecedented in their dissemination. How do you claim they are not major news stories?

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

I should mention that I always feel sick doing so, which reassures me that I'm not a psychopath :-)

[Berni]

certainly not watched footage subsequently) and as I say, I grew up watching JFK's death on telly, so had no opportunity to avoid it, really. In neither case did I go out of my way to watch something horrific.

And as for your stuff about ISIS, they are releasing these videos to titilate and impress. They are simply propaganda designed to attract recruits and scare whitey. You can't claim there is any current affairs value - or any other higher purpose - in watching the deaths of these people - it is nothing but thrill-seeking prurience.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

that I must be the sort of freak who likes snuff movies? What the f**k are you dribbling about?

[Monty91]

consistency on the issue, though I won't be the only one suspicious about whether you are telling the truth.

[Classic Jorge]

I'm just quite interested to see where your boundaries lie

[Berni]

a human being being killed on camera.

Catastrophic events - if big enough - one tends to see on the news anyway, but not in such a way that you can see the look on someone's face as they die, ffs.

[Monty91]

experience life’s full gamut of emotions.

[Berni]

something as intimate as another human being's death to pass the time.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You do have a therapist, I take it? Please tell me there is a mental health professional watching you.

[Monty91]

What stopped you diverting your eyes, if not prurience?

[Classic Jorge]

I just thought you'd see it as part and parcel of the whole war business.

[Berni]

a part of our modern iconography with deliberately going out of your way to seek out footage of men dying are heroic but doomed, I'm afraid. They are in no sense similar.

Watching an aeroplane hit a building is in no way the same as watching the face of a dying man. In one, you can see the event, weigh its significance in political terms while imagining the horror and terror of the victims without having to see it in close up. In the other instance, however, you are actively seeking the close-up. The only wider significance the footage has is that which you give it by watching. You are therefore deliberately complicit in the act.

[Berni]

That doesn't mean I want to watch men die in agony.

[redgunamo]

and face the world you're bringing your children into.

You have no hiding place anymore.

[Trixie Popsicle]