David Cameron's off to yerp for his crunch meeting with the yerpeans. Big day for Dave

[Classic Jorge]

They've put it fourth on the agenda :hehe:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

:hehe:

[Classic Jorge]

Seriously though, I'm a bit worried by all of this business. They're going to pull us out of yerp, arent they?

[barrybueno]

btw how d'ya feel about the Buck Palace makeover? Delighted I assume :hehe:

[Berni]

financial and economic system being a f**king mess and a migrant crisis it can't deal with because the EU's immigration policies being a f**king mess.

The common thread is the EU being a bit of a f**king mess. Which is sort of the problem the UK has with it, you see?

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, it must be tough for her as a billionaire to keep up the repairs on so many palaces.

I think it's great she'll receive an extra 15pc next year whilst useful people have their wages further squeezed and are told "stop complaining, we're all in this together" by people who've just given themselves an 11pc pay rise.

Delighted.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

They have to be seen to be representing the conservative and UKIP voters who have their panties twisted about 'Europe', that's all.

A referendum really is the best way to deal with this issue. There's not a snowball's chance in hell of an 'out' vote, and once it's done, the Eurosceptic hordes can be legitimately asked to step back into their box.

Even if, by some bizarre quirk of fate, there was an 'out' vote, we'd remain within the EEA, probably with EFTA membership. The UK is far too important a market for the EU to be allowed to drift away.

[Berni]

used for a ghetto blaster in Croydon in the early 1980s. Nobody turned a hair, whereas it now just sounds unbelievably offensive.

The past really is another country, isn't it?

[Classic Jorge]

I'm pretty sure the script is already written though. Dave will go over, be his usual ineffectual self and come back claiming they wont listen to him, which will be a massive boon for the eurosceptic wing of the tory party.

[Berni]

the loons like Michael Fabricant and Bill Cash the excuse to say the vote wasn't legit.

[Snin]

IRRIE :-)

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

She point blank refused to believe it, to the extent that I began to think I'd misremebered. It does seem bizarre now in retrospect.

[Classic Jorge]

What the f**k is going on there?!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/23/video-undefined-236EBF9000000578-805_636x358.jpg

[Curly]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

A gentleman lies to no man, save his accountant and HM INspector of Taxes.

[barrybueno]

I mean '[racist term removed] shop' whats wrong with that? And I can't even say 'my nigga' to mates anymore without looking around the pub first. I've been restricted B and I don't like it

[Snin]

as he cleared up the boxes and no one batted an eyelid , even ther chinky's were polite as well well more polite than the zulus and the speak chuckers

[Berni]

epithets that were bandied about at the time. I guess on the basis that if you were busy trying to stop people call you 'c*on', 'n*gger' and 'jungle bunny', you just didn't have the energy to get arsey about 'wog'.

[Classic Jorge]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

and fetch her cigs from [racist term removed] Ali's :hehe:

[Classic Jorge]

I've done enough underestimating of their petty smallmindedness, insularity and zenephobia already and look where that got us.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[barrybueno]

The drugged up lycra lout ain't gonna like this :wave:

[Lt. Gooner 2002]

People have gone to war for less.

Time to march the Euro army into Athens and take back what's ours.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You may mean 'xenophobia', I think.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

[Berni]

[barrybueno]

My God the 70's were ace :cloud9:

[Classic Jorge]

I think I was having an episode whilst reliving the horrors of this year

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I wonder what Ireland, Spain, Italy and Portugal would have to say about that?

I tell you what, why don't we just print enough money to giove everyone on earth exactly 5 billion pounds. Then we'd have equality and everything would be perfect.

I cannot see a single flaw in our carefully thought out plans. wd j, wd me.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

amusing, though. :hehe:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It's making me awfully uncomefortable.

[barrybueno]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

He pays his mortgage with imaginary money, you know. His bank are unimaginably happy with this arrangement.

[Curly]

[Berni]

Jesus. You didn't call them wogs, did you? :-(

[Berni]

[barrybueno]

rule makers get the funnier the old days become. And Family Guy, South Park and American Dad :cloud9:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I was arguing that language is all about context, and that if I referred to them as 'wogs' as a term of endearment, no offence would be taken.

Can we PLEASE talk about something else?

[Snin]

as the others looked at each other open mouthed in shock as an old swarthy drunk gent in a 4 piece suit and monacle then starts shouting NOOO the PAKIiS ..THE PAHKISAWRUS..and digging deeper n deepr as his good wife twerked in the background showing ff her bloomers

[Classic Jorge]

Literally the whole point of modern market economics was to pull the creation of money away from something tangible and real like tying it to a commodity and instead tying it to the creation of debt.

[Snin]

thanks for that I feel much better

[Berni]

token for the exchange of labour for goods and services.

However, since without this imaginary concept, we wouldn't have civilisation of any sort, I'm happy to carry on the pretence. :thumbup:

[Curly]

http://rlv.zcache.com/worlds_hottest_socialist_fire_and_flam es_red_marb_card-red1f0954158f48daa695c0707cd261ac_xvuat_8by vr_324.jpg (http://rlv.zcache.com/worlds_hottest_socialist_fire_and_flames_red_marb_ card-red1f0954158f48daa695c0707cd261ac_xvuat_8byvr_324. jpg)

[Berni]

Other than that which we place on it, I mean?

[Billy Goat Sverige]

:puke:

[Classic Jorge]

Sooner or later people are going to realise there's a big massive elephant sat there.

[barrybueno]

[Berni]

This is all-time record-breaking work, old chum.

I salute you. :bow:

[Classic Jorge]

This was seen as a massive drawback to the creation of money, not real money obviously, and thus it was ditched in favour of creating more and more money in the form of debt.

[Curly]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

I reckon we've got away with it.

What do you mean, anyway? That people will suddenly go 'There's no such thing as money! f**k paying my mortgage. f**k getting paid. I'm just going to barter **** instead. That'll be much better!'

Only it won't be better, will it? Because without money, you don't have the mechanisms for industry, research, medicine, science or anything else that makes life tolerable.

[Curly]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

You realise what Fiat means, yes?

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

We employed it in order to fund our wars with the French. It gave the British state vastly more income and much greater access to finance than them, with the result that we ended up handing their arses to them in the Seven Years War and having a vast empire while they made do with the **** that was left over and having a revolution because they were so skint.

That's the thing, you see? Affordable credit and finance create wealth, stimulates industry and increases buying power. Nobody with any sense is going to do ditch them in favour of something austere and finite.

[Peter]

[Classic Jorge]

The rest of it just creates a massive pyramid scheme of debt which only effectively goes to serve the people reallocating that debt and even then only in the form of commissions.

The idea is that this wealth then 'trickles down' to the people at the bottom end of the pyramid, the consumers, but in reality it basically leaves them in a worse position as by the time it reaches them inflation has rendered any money that does trickle down worthless. Therefore the answer is to create more debt and start the cycle again.

[barrybueno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ409l10ciU