So: jealousy, avarice, smallmindedness. Are these really the exclusive preserve of the middle class?

[Ashberto]

As was claimed earlier. While sympathy and empathy are apparently anathema to the middle class, so presumably being owned by some other class.

Given that one choses the social class into which one is born in the same way in which one choses their skin colour, nationality or sexual preference, where does this analysis lead?


FWIW, I don't really agree with either Jorge or Berni's definitions of class, and virtues thereof. For me it's about where one stands in relation to capital and the production of goods and services, Clive.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Snin]

[Classic Jorge]

And it may well be worth pointing out I was reflecting berni's prejudices back to him for rhetorical effect.

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

[Jake]

POSHO/UPPER = Says yah, went to boarding school/public, parents live in the country/have country house.

SNOBBO/MIDDLE = Constantly harks back to working class roots, eats out at decent restaurants, goes to the Arsenal, listens to podcasts.

GYPOS/THE REST = Can't speak properly, you feel uncomfortable in their presence but tolerate it for a bit, they have no idea chutney is.

[Ashberto]

Carrots, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Bread, Lemons, New Potatoes, Beer.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

All walks of life have utter arseholes in their midst.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

[Frimmers]

It was so middle class I felt like punching myself in the face.

And I'd have deserved it tbh.

[Jake]

[Snin]

middleclass cnut

[Berni]

self-made, petty bourgeois businessman, surely?

[Classic Jorge]

so ner

[Ashberto]

[Ashberto]

Oh.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

They were being given out for free on the street by an absolute honey, so I stopped and made small talk.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

But I imagine you'll have to wait in for the Waitrose man

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Snin]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

with the nice vegetables.

[Classic Jorge]

Not to mention chocolates called amusing things like 'ploppi'

[Berni]

Also, I like the unbelievably surly and intimidating men on the meat counter.

My wife does online shopping. Pisses me off. I keep telling her they rip you off by giving you the **** stuff, but does she listen? :-(

[eastgermanautos]

ers offer one a display of fine feeling. But not often.