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Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:26 AM
The highlight for me, from an admittedly weak field, was my old boss announcing Ed Balls' demise.

Pokster
05-08-2015, 08:27 AM

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
I admit I wavered slightly yesterday as the horrific possibility of a leftist win started to weigh heavy on me, but ultimately my earlier feelings about things proved pretty accurate. Thank the Lord for that.

Pollsters really are tossers.

Brentwood
05-08-2015, 08:31 AM

Brentwood
05-08-2015, 08:32 AM
but I guess Labour voters have more time on their hands to sit on Twitter all day on their iPhones

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:33 AM
I didnt think Labour could get anywhere near a majority but I'm genuinely disappointed in the people of this country in voting that lot back in.

I'm rather fearful, given what they did without a majority, about just what they'll do with their 12bn of secret welfare cuts.

modd
05-08-2015, 08:35 AM
good not have got any better for the tories.

Thoughts
(1) cameron will stay as pm till 2019 before handing over to a newer tory to fight the 2020 election
(2)labour will elect blarite leader such as andy burnham or one of the 2010 breed.
(3) lib dems will appoint tim farron leader of a broker party which take 20 years to recover as major national force
(4) farage will quit as ukip leader and suazanne moore will become the leader
(5) snp buble will burst and their lose seats in scotish election in 2016. sturgeon will be replaced as leader in 2018 by her snp depuliy

(6) britain to stay in the eu after vote in 2017 to cameron relief and tory annoyance

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:35 AM
It's not often I use the term inspirational, in fact this may be the first time, but her story is a real triumph over adversity.

Good to have Galloway out too, we dont need that sort of divisiveness around here and he'll melt off back into the ether of russian state television and Press News now.

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:36 AM
them who doesn't have horns and a tail must also be Labour supporters and therefore mouth off about supporting Labour in a way tories simply don't. I've had it this morning with two women in my office who both came in and said something to the effect of 'Wasn't it a terrible evening?', apparently thinking I must be one of them - presumably because I don't eat babies or kick homeless people (much).

So basically, Labour supporters shout about it and tory voters just vote tory and shut the f**k up about it the rest of the time.

PSRB
05-08-2015, 08:37 AM

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:37 AM
As I say, quite scary just how much damage they'll do with this mandate. I genuinely worry for poor people, who are about to get their necks more and more stepped on.

Brentwood
05-08-2015, 08:38 AM
ashamed to say they were going to vote Tory because it's bcome a dirty word, and instead said Labour, which explains why the opinion polls didn't reflect the reality

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:39 AM
:cloud9:

Pokster
05-08-2015, 08:40 AM
there they could keep them under control... with a small majority the far right will flax their muscles and I predict that over the next 5 yrs there will be huge divisions in the Tory party over Europe

Pokster
05-08-2015, 08:40 AM

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:41 AM

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:42 AM
meaningless, since their margins of error easily cover the sort of swing we've seen here. Plus, the 'shy tory' phenomenon can hardly come as a surprise to anyone anymore.

Pat Vegas
05-08-2015, 08:42 AM
But for his actual politician abilities I have no idea.

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:43 AM

modd
05-08-2015, 08:43 AM
are not blameless with their wars in iraq and overspending and blair poison legacy.

Sad truth is england become more right wing other then london where i live

Scotland become much more left wing.

deep down tories will only get stronger with boundry changes coming in to give them 20 extra seats.

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:44 AM
As it is they kept schtum, and what's more they attacked all the other parties for their "uncosted, secret plans".

I'm rather worried for the country, not to mention disappointed how people react more to the rhetoric of fear and divison more than hope and compassion.

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:44 AM
Still suffers from the whole 'North London Policy Wonk' image problem, though.

Witharby 2-3 weeks
05-08-2015, 08:46 AM
:shudder:

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:47 AM
It's not really that I'm worried about, it's more about people's rights and freedoms.

Pokster
05-08-2015, 08:48 AM
that doesn't strike you as being very fair.

500 of the 650 seats are classed as safe so the decsion actually rests in very few hands

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:48 AM
Yvette Cooper and Andy Burnham would be my guess, especially now she's free of the millstone that is her husband (and the Milhouse that is the other Ed)

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:49 AM
Britain as a whole does not now and never will want left wing, socialist government of any sort - and whatever you think, that's what they were being offered by Labour and the SNP. Why the left struggles with understanding this given that the only successful leader Labour have had in 30 years has been the only one who acknowledged the electorate's distaste for leftist policies and adjusted his party accordingly, I simply don't know. Wilful stupidity it seems to me.

However, there's always some Owen Jones-style bright spark who comes along and claims the reason Labour aren't more successful is that they're not left wing enough. :hehe: That always works a treat.

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:50 AM
And middle england has time and time again proved itself to lack both a soul and a conscience.

Jake
05-08-2015, 08:50 AM
http://girlhack.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/reviews_futrama2.jpg

Witharby 2-3 weeks
05-08-2015, 08:51 AM
Sun readers, Reality TV watchers generally, those with **** cars, those who write CVs including text speak, Northerners.

It's a big failing

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:52 AM
Just not large swathes of england.

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:53 AM

Luis Anaconda
05-08-2015, 08:53 AM
I mean why would you consider voting for the inexperienced Bobby Simone when you have Hawkeye on the ballot sheet?

Sorry, I was watching the seventh season of West Wing - anything else going on?

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:53 AM
Pretty apt, I thought

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:54 AM

Pat Vegas
05-08-2015, 08:54 AM

modd
05-08-2015, 08:55 AM
can,t moan. now tories doing the same. the truth is that in middle england they look after themselves really and blair sucked up to that for years. Cameron now got that vote in his pocket

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
05-08-2015, 08:55 AM
:monty:

Berni
05-08-2015, 08:56 AM
pariahs by the rest of the continent, but are traded with quite happily.

Their domestic policy is up to them. Wouldn't be my choice, but there you go.

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:57 AM

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 08:59 AM
The russians, up until they recently got all invadey, were also traded with quite happily, as are the saudis.

Luis Anaconda
05-08-2015, 09:00 AM

Supermac1976
05-08-2015, 09:03 AM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/12/article-1276860-02C0AE2F00000578-274_306x455.jpg

Brentwood
05-08-2015, 09:05 AM

Berni
05-08-2015, 09:10 AM
As long as you've got something people want to buy, whether you're part of the EU or not doesn't matter a damn.

Berni
05-08-2015, 09:12 AM
because I don't need the aggravation.

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 09:13 AM

Berni
05-08-2015, 09:18 AM
That's how we're the second biggest exporter of cars in Europe. That's how we have the second biggest aerospace industry in the world. That's why our electronics industry is so successful...I could go on.

Really, this hackneyed 'we don't make anything anymore' line is too ridiculous for words.

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 09:23 AM
Our economy is roughly three quarters service industry though. It's hardly a manufacturing power as it used to be. Also, we make other people's cars.

Luis Anaconda
05-08-2015, 09:23 AM

Luis Anaconda
05-08-2015, 09:35 AM
IMF, the UN, the World Bank or the CIA - pretty much interchangeable with France

Classic Jorge
05-08-2015, 09:36 AM

Luis Anaconda
05-08-2015, 09:38 AM