Right. This team of 'carers' presumably keep putting food in front of this man, do they?

[Berni]

How can anyone justify doing that and calling themselves a 'carer'? It's like putting an overdose of heroin in front of a junky and calling it 'care'. These people should be prosecuted.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11575834/Britains-fat test-man-weighs-65st.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11575834/Britains-fattest-man-weighs-65st.html)

[Mc Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

I did like "Earlier this week Georgia Davis, 22, weighing 60 stone, who was once Britain's fattest teenager, had to be airlifted out of her home in Wales."

You know things have gone too far when you need a Free Willy scenario to get out of your flat

[Berni]

Surely at this stage they have a duty not to do him harm?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

At first I thought his head was coming out of his arse and that his legs were facing the wrong way.

But then he would be a freak.

Fair to say that is not his best photo.

[Berni]

[Berni]

the house down.

[Mc Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

Also, point of note, those carers will be agency staff meaning that not only do we effectively pay for a morbidly obese man to get fatter we are also paying an agency to skim off roughly a third of that money. I doubt the carers even get a living wage from the job.

Isn't the marketised NHS a wonderful thing?

[Mc Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

Plus, directly employed NHS staff are hardly notable for their efficiency and dedication in my experience.

[Classic Jorge]

Cant we just give him a **** tonne of really good speed?

[PSRB]

[Berni]

Do you really think he'd survive a good jolt of methamphetamine?

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

I reckon he'd be chewing his face off down by the bass bins in six months

[Berni]

with a stick. And, when he carks it, he should be rendered down for soap to recoup some of the losses.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Either way he is a dirty ******* of course so I suspect he will quaff it down regardless.

There is of course other questions here that need to asked. I assume, given his inability to move, that he does not work, so his 200 pounds per week takeaway bill is funded how? I assume he is a recipient of your much fabled and extremely generous benefits system – unemployment benefit, disability benefit, fat c**t wedge aka carers benefit.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

I get confused. Apparently, the poor are going hungry whilst also being enormously fat. It's mystifying.

[Berni]

[PSRB]

[Berni]

From what I can make out, they're mostly full of Romanians taking the piss.

[Classic Jorge]

Given JSA is 58 quid a week, that would barely cover his chocolate bill.

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.trusselltrust.org/resources/images/foodbank/stats/people-helped-stats.png

[Berni]

him, j. :-( I'd be out of there like a shot.

He may have inherited from his dead ma. That would explain the sudden rocketing in his size.

[Berni]

shown, they're not exactly assiduous in their checking or record keeping. In other words, their figures mean f**k all.

[Jake]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/30/10/2828EAB600000578-3062175-image-a-1_1430385217669.jpg

[Berni]

"Come and get me, ladies. And while you're at it, could you wipe my arse for me as well?"

[Ben.]

most probably

[PSRB]

[Classic Jorge]

It's all sounding a bit Flat Earth Society now. It doesn't take a genius to work out, with tougher benefits sanctions and the removal of crisis loans, that there are people out there, families even, going without food.

[Jake]

[Berni]

Also, the assumption that if someone uses a foodbank it's because they need to is ridiculous. If you offer free food, people will take it. No-one in this country is going hungry, it's just a lie.

[Red N White Army]

And help yourself

[Berni]

Equally, the referrals aren't too hard to come by.

[Classic Jorge]

And people are going hungry in this country, though I'm sure you'd like to ignore it

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Based in Merthyr Tydfil. Anyway lady lost her job at local council amenity and was shown next day going to her local food bank on the Gurnos estate where she was provided with a bag full of various foodstuffs including biscuits, more biscuits and hot dogs. Of course the television editing could have meant the time lag between the two events was longer but it appeared not.

It then showed her getting herself ready for a date that evening.

The lady was unemployed but appeared to be far from destitute.

I suspect, without any evidence which let’s face it is the true AWIMB way, it is essentially a free for all.

[Berni]

crap?

[Classic Jorge]

Given the fact that local authorities make the referrals in the first place I would imagine the department for communities and local government would be able to produce some figures to rebut the Trussel Trust ones fairly easily.

[Berni]

government. The lefty media love it because they love something that appears to be a physical indictment of society, etc, etc, while the 'poor' just see the chance of a free slap-up feed from the do-gooders. Everyone's in it for entirely self-serving and cynical reasons. It's a racket.

[Berni]

No. I want some figures on starvation/malnutrition (the kind you get from not eating enough, not the type you get from only eating **** stuff).

[Classic Jorge]

If it were an outside body collecting them you'd only dismiss them as politically motivated anyway.

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

The BCCI like this.

[Classic Jorge]

The figures don't exist, or have not been published, because they would be embarrassing. If there were a single chance for the government to rebut the argument they would have taken it with both hands.

[Berni]

You are literally just seeing what you want to with no meaningful evidence.

[Classic Jorge]

Knowing what I know about the NHS at the moment that funding application would likely need to go to the Cabinet Office, which would be where the problems would arise.

So, in short, yes

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

And you are saying that the absence of evidence is evidence in itself.

Classic conspiracy theory stuff, in other words.

[Classic Jorge]

You're the one refusing to believe there's even a need to use food banks, despite all of the evidence to the contrary - namely a million people using the f**kers.

You even pointed to there being a massive leftist conspiracy.

[Berni]

anything. Equally, I didn't say there was a conspiracy, simply that it suited all parties to cynically perpetuate the myth of a need for food banks.

And all your rubbish about a cover-up is just that, I'm afraid.

[Classic Jorge]

I also pointed out why any attempt to carry out a study would probably be rejected for those reasons. Given these the only facts we have to go on would be the food bank usage ones.

[Berni]

because there is simply no medical evidence - anecdotal or statistical - that large numbers of people are going hungry? Indeed, you have the NHS regularly reporting that people are getting dangerously fatter - particularly among the lower socio-economic groups. Is that just a big fat smokescreen for the real story of starving waifs, then?

[PSRB]

[Classic Jorge]

As I said earlier, a much simpler and easier thing would be for them to release the figures on referrals, which they won't do.

Make your own conclusion as to why.