Looks like the Tories might come closer to nicking it than anyone thought.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Peter]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDsH1Iq-Nzg

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/matador-miguel-angel-perera-iii-rafa-rivas.jpg

[Mo Britain less Europe]

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/kim-jong-un.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1

[the splendor of antigone]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Ashberto]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

And Salmond and Sinn Fein.

[the splendor of antigone]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDgto1xXIAAxWCq.jpg

[Mo Britain less Europe]

opposing non-stunned Halal, opposing the legalisation of dangerous drugs. Some sympathy with leaving the EU and cutting bureacucracy in the NHS. Capital punishment is a must. The state shouldn't get involved in promoting sexual inclinations. The rest is nonsense.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, since we prohibited the use, possession and import of them hardly anybody uses drugs any more.

wd the misuse of drugs act 1971 imo, top work

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

It's very important to show feelings towards some form of being.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

quite like the idea of junkies being given the means to kill themselves following their bliss.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

without being accused of assault or abuse or whatever. I think you need to distinguish between a spur of the moment admonitory smack and systematic beatings. To equate the two is just crass.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

confiscated heroin etc and letting people kill themselves at their leisure without bothering others.

[the splendor of antigone]

to smack them around isn't really addressing the core issue :hehe:

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

being smacked they have no problem in smacking others.

[the splendor of antigone]

miracle? :cloud9:

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

Also, the trend is broadly towards stronger criminalisation, when you consider things like re-banding and the classification of new things as illegal.

The interesting thing is countries like Portugal seem to be doing interesting stuff with their policies. The decriminalisation seems to have hit crime figures massively, not to mention reduced the cost to their healthcare system.

These would seem like good things to me. Maybe we should base more of our social policies on evidence rather than daily mail editorials, we might even earn a decent tax take.

[Classic Jorge]

Placing a premium on the product actively incentivises successive mongers to adulterate it. It's almost a perfect system in that sense.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

...opposing non-stunned Halal, opposing the legalisation of dangerous drugs. Some sympathy with leaving the EU and cutting bureacucracy in the NHS.

She'd probably think capital punishment is a must too.

In short, I think you should swipe right on this one, Mo.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

drugs would have a positive effect on crime are being naive. crime thrives on illegality. Make heroin available on the NHS and the big boys will move onto something else. Or sell cheaper smuggled heroin.

The irony of course is that many pro-drugs campaigners favour stricter controls on smoking tobacco.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

new ones. Bloody capitalism.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

I do like your idea that "crime thrives on illegality" though, that's original.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

Though I'm not sure the people cutting heroin batches take as scientific an approach.

One thing I am curious about is, is there some sort of grading of drugs for you or is it just a blanket thing? Do you think any of the legal, more socially acceptable, drugs are worse than any of the illegal ones?

[Mo Britain less Europe]

life that's what it is about. No point in making simple things complicated. Alcohol is ok, alcoholics are not.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

We also get high, don't forget that.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

activists.

Worse? Well the more addictive, incapacitating and unpredictable the drug the more dangerous it is and the likelier it should be banned.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

From a purely pragmatic standpoint, we could tax a lot of those drugs massively. All of that lovely moolah we're freely handing over to foreign criminal gangs - because they're all foreign, y'know - we could be having that.

[the splendor of antigone]

where our views differ.

[Classic Jorge]

With glue the restricted the sale to certain establishments and prohibited the sale of it to children. Seems quite a logical move, really.

Of course, it was a nightmare. It encouraged glue usage to the point were people were burgling houses and mugging people for glue money. Personally I think we'd be better off with stuff just not sticking together. They only sell the sellotape to buy more glue anyway.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Classic Jorge]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

stuff because of the potential for misuse. Bleach will kill you but you don't have to drink it.

[Classic Jorge]

[Red N White Army]

[PSRB]

at the end of the day, Milliband???

[Berni]

Conservatives in England and doing Labour huge damage.

[Mc Gooner]

[Red N White Army]

Effect. Not quite sure how he's going to get out of it if he does have the opportunity to form a Govt though, he'll almost certainly need their help...

[Berni]

Blunkett came out with it yesterday, in fact.

[Red N White Army]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

However, I suspect it won't be necessary. I have a suspicion England will vote Tory in much larger numbers than the current polling seems to suggest.

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Ashberto]