I'm currently reading (OK, listening to) an Irvine Welsh book for the first time in around 20 years.

[Berni]

It's the same old thing, tbh. They start out funny and scabrous and end up bleak, revolting and depressing.

For instance, some mentally subnormal type has just had sex with the decomposing prositute girlfriend he accidentally killed, painted her gold and pushed her onto some railway lines.

Safe to say the laughs have dried up a bit. :-(

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

It's still a f**king great book. No matter how great the film is the book still trumps it.

Welsh has gone a bit downhill though, admittedly.

[Berni]

had abused her since she was 12.

It's a f**king barrel of laughs, la. :-(

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It grinds you down after a while.

[Ashberto]

was the birthplace of JMW Turner, I think. Probably not a pub at the time. Possibly a barber.

[Berni]

[Pokster]

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Ashberto]

[Berni]

He is rather overexposed in this country, but that's not his fault.

Monet. Now he was f**king dull.

[Classic Jorge]

And this from a decidedly un-nouveau classicist snob. I'm the same with architecture.

How he gets all the props and someone like Joseph Wright of Derby, one of the most underrated painters ever, doesn't is beyond me.

Sorry, I appear to have gone all Waldemar Januszczak

[Luis Anaconda]

no one gets anywhere at Derby, j

[Ashberto]

You will without doubt disagree with me, but I like Timothy Spall.

[Classic Jorge]

I always strongly suspected Turner to not really be able to do faces. You should always worry about a painter who is duller on canvas than he is in his personal life.


*better, Sir C?

[Ashberto]

That f**king painting in the National with the bird in the jar is I think my favouritest painting ever.

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Demented, possibly.

[Berni]

Mostly that - and this'll make you laugh - I think he's a sneering snob.

:-)

[Ashberto]

it. I wasn't expecting it to be set back from the road.

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

Literally the best picture to feature Peter Stringfellow ever. Seriously though, I could wax lyrical about that for hours. Also, some of his landscapes are ace too.

http://sartle.com/sartle_images//imagesi/1000334.jpg

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

Anyway, I shall be going to The Prado and feasting on Velazquez this summer. :cloud9:

[Berni]

...chocolate boxey? :hide:

If the pictures on chocolate boxes involved small children crying as dumb animals are suffocated to death, that is.

[Classic Jorge]

It's rare that there's so much nuance in a painting of that vintage, from that sort of school. I quite like the way you could miss it at first but you're hooked as soon as you look at it.

Also, it's quite nice to see so many people rate it.

[Ashberto]

but the lighting is beautiful - and of course lighting was Turner's Thing.

Do you like Claude? The National Gallery had a Claude/Turner exhibition the other year, with the works of the two placed together.

http://www.artcyclopedia.org/art/claude-lorrain-seaport.jpg

[Ashberto]

[Ashberto]

[Classic Jorge]

Great backgrounds, someone needs to paint something else on it though.

Velasquez is my man, always has been, always will be.

[Ashberto]

I can see where our tastes differ.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

I'm also a big fan of a classical scenes and have recently got right into Dirk van Delen following a long, tiring day at the Rijksmuseum.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I was still pissed though, and got a bit sweaty and faintly.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It was step 2 in a weekend long ploy to soil a beautiful young art student from somewhere in the midlands. I had met her on holiday.

She had travelled down as it was related to her course or whatever and I was the man to guide her around London.

I was so disinterested in the whole shebang that I got unmercilessly stoned before entering and ended up standing, staring at each painting for about 10 minutes. People probably thought I was totally absorbed and arty but the truth was that I was incapable of moving.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Luis Anaconda]

though I only usually attented openings at them and there tended to be a lot of wine

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Berni]

The artistic equivalent of 'a bad pint' or 'a dodgy prawn'.

[Classic Jorge]

Or Mushrooms/Microdots

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

She liked The Doors so I went along to some “Australian Doors” type thing the night before in the Town + Country, ended up a f**king mess at that.

The Art Gallery as described was a farce, few pipes before entering and 1-2 liveners in a nearby pub. As soon as it was over we hot tailed it back to the Queens Head in Turnpike Lane because I know how to show a lady a good time.

[Classic Jorge]

She was a loose lady, wasn't she?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I wore her down in London.*


*got her f**king wasted