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Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:17 AM
it is almost certain to happen. I'd rather a Labour majority than that chaos :-(

Luis Anaconda
04-20-2015, 11:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

Peter
04-20-2015, 11:20 AM
Although it is quite entertaining seeing people getting worked up about this. :-)

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:20 AM
Personally I find the prospect of a tory/UKIP c**talition much more terrifying.

Witharby 2-3 weeks
04-20-2015, 11:21 AM
although in a fairy tale bogie man type way.

Changing one lot of arseholes in Westminster for another lot of Arseholes in not frightening. Depressing mostly

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:22 AM
seats if that. Where as we know the SNP will slaughter Labour in Scotland. It is 1/8 on a hung parliament that to me means only Milliband will be able to form a government with the support of the SNP.

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:23 AM
election as far as I can see.

71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat
04-20-2015, 11:24 AM

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:25 AM
Are you worried about us dangerously veering towards being a more fair, just and caring society?

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:26 AM

Luis Anaconda
04-20-2015, 11:26 AM
but apparently just got in on time

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:27 AM

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:27 AM

Snin
04-20-2015, 11:29 AM

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:29 AM
I'm really not sure how the Tories are spinning this fear of a major party being cowed and made a slave to a minor coalition partner, especially given the last five years. It's just capitalising on the political illiteracy of the electorate.

Bergkamp's Brain
04-20-2015, 11:31 AM

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:32 AM
government. Their spending on health and education for starters.

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:34 AM
they are extreme left wing as much UKIP are extreme right. Both I dislike.

Luis Anaconda
04-20-2015, 11:34 AM

Dorset Gooner
04-20-2015, 11:35 AM

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:35 AM
Also, they aren't really left wing, if you've not been paying attention, nobody is nowadays.

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:37 AM
Putting aside the free university tuition stuff (which is largely a two fingers to England), their health and education spending policies are significantly lower than those of the coalition. They've also absolutely savaged adult further education (the traditional route out of poverty). This idea that they're to the left of the Labour party is utter nonsense.

Luis Anaconda
04-20-2015, 11:38 AM
negates the fact the the people of Scotland voted to stay part of the Union. What was it you were saying about wanting proper democracy?

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:38 AM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
04-20-2015, 11:39 AM
oh, forget it.

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:41 AM
...when it's that close.

They voted for what they voted for, I'm not disputing that, but it's pretty close to half, no?

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:43 AM
Given there isn't a single party that represents anywhere near 45pc of the vote, and there hasn't been since 1997, I'd say it's a pretty valid mandate.

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:45 AM
significant, I'd say. And, when you factor in that many of those who voted 'Yes' in the referendum aren't even eligible to vote in proper elections, I'd say that a clear majority of the electorate of Scotland rejected independence.

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:47 AM

Berni
04-20-2015, 11:52 AM
about a virtual landslide.

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 11:56 AM
Lets also not gloss over the sheer amount of ground that had to be given to overturn all of the projections a fortnight before.

Make no mistake, I didn't want the scotches to leave but it was bloody close.

Berni
04-20-2015, 12:04 PM
next to a pile of 45 and tell me it's close. And, as I say, if you then take away all the clueless 16 and 17-year-olds who should never have been voting in the first place and it was a resounding 'No'.

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 12:09 PM
And that's obviously ignoring all polling leading up to the vote, why else would they have improved the Yes package three weeks before?

This, on weans voting, is interesting though. "More precisely, according to ICM’s survey, 75% of 16 and 17 year olds voted, compared with 54% of 18-24 year olds and 72% of 25-34 year olds. The turnout in all three groups is markedly lower than the estimate for 35-54 year olds (85%) and those aged 55 and over (92%)."

Berni
04-20-2015, 12:18 PM
And those figures don't surprise me at all. A 75% turnout from young idiots getting their first crack at the thing, which drops sharply for idle students, then picks up for younger working people and then the older people who felt most threatened by and had most to lose from Independence turned out in droves.

Classic Jorge
04-20-2015, 12:28 PM
The point still stands that no figure for any party on a national scale has touched 46pc for quite some time so the SNP still have a remarkably strong mandate.