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View Full Version : Snin, thanks for that link you posted on the Green-Nazi connection. It was an interesting read



Ashberto
04-16-2015, 12:44 PM
http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-greens-inconvenient-h istory (http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-greens-inconvenient-history)

though as I know nothing of German history I have to take his word for a lot of stuff. eg: Feudalism continuing as late as the 19th century. I was aware of the whole nature thing that the Nazis had, and how their dislike of cities contributed to the Lebensraum urge, and their preference of animals to humans, though the idea of the German ruling class trying to reject or somehow avoid capitalism completely was new to me, and from a class point of view, the perpetuation of feudalist relations of the enslaved and bureaucratic classes using fascism makes sense.

I mentioned on here recently how green politics has roots in the land-owning aristocracy - partly to wind up Jorge because he's going to vote for them, but actually because of the feudal sense of 'the land' in greenism.

I was looking to see someone shooting down some of Durkins' premises in the comments but everyone seemed to agree with him, particularly on his free market fundamentalism which was where I had to doubt his analysis somewhat. He constantly painted the emergence of British capitalism as some kind of ecstacy-fuelled love-in between the mutually liberated bourgeois and proletariat classes, as they surged ahead in liberty, equality and fraternity. And prosperity. Except of course that only one of those classes really enjoyed the freedom and prosperity of capitalism at that point. He completely ignored the bitter struggle between the classes caused by raw capitalism, in the same way that he completely ignored the catastrophic collapse of capitalism that preceded the rise of Nazism.

I'm the first to agree that capitalism is a huge and wonderful advance on feudalism, but Durkin does have rose-tinted spectacles when viewing early British capitalism, and possibly a hint of jingoism while he's at it. I thought one of his readers comments summed up the mood of the site. "History is written by The International Socialists."

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Snin
04-16-2015, 12:49 PM
he is indeed the michael moore for the right / freedom loving ron paul types but overall a good read