You know who was a ridiculously underrated footballer for us?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Freddie Ljungberg.

The 2002 double was won because of his understanding with Bergkamp. Henry was simply gilding on the lily.

[Snin]

shame he was a raging homo

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

As a footballer.

My belief is not in any way to diminish the role he played in the 2002 season end.

[Pat Vegas]

when I saw it's his birthday on the Arsenal facebook.

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Don't spout this 'assists' nonsense at me. I can't and won't allow the beautiful game to be destroyed by Yanqui neologisms.

You'll be telling me about his yardage next.

It makes my sould weep. See also, 'heatmaps'.

f**k off everyone.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Thank you.

Thank you Sir C.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Chuck in some cameos from Denilson; we were beautiful to watch that season.

[Peter]

[Luis Anaconda]

Poor old Martin lets down the side a bit there really

[Ashberto]

and it all becomes clearer. It was Freddie's Key Dribbles in the Final Third ratio that won us that title.

Good fishing, by the way. You got your main quarry, and a bonus extra.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

you should get another hobby.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

:cloud9:

[Classic Jorge]

Whatever your feelings about the metrics here I think it's fair to say you've diminished his contribution

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

With an educated eye. Not a spreadsheet.

[The Rob2]

[Classic Jorge]

So, then, statistics aside, are you actually saying our top goalscorer was only the cherry on the cake?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

yee-haw and fire his six guns in the air.

Jorge is very keen on the American version of 'sport'. There is no pleace for the creativity of a Ljungberg in there.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I do NOT look like Harry Redknapp.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Specifically the term "assist" being one of the singly most useless figures in football.

Stats in general, certainly when used in isolation, have always to me promoted football analysis for the retarded.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

The quartet when my attendance at Highbury became a fixture.

I hope you see what I did there.

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

70 pounds, if I remember correctly.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

His contribution as a footballer was overlooked, to a degree, by the majority - people of little knowledge, for example, were impressed by Henry's goals.

So, so obvious.

[PSRB]

[Luis Anaconda]

not as vividly as I remember 1980 though :cry:

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

An attacking player so hugely fortunate that his career with us coincided with some of the greatest players ever.

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

His ability to work for Bergkamp and to create the space for Bergkamp to make the team tick was what he should have been exalted for.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Peter]

Mainly because he scored a lot of goals. The better trained eyes recognised him as a good footballer made temporarily great by bergkamp.

Children and child-like fans adored him and dyed their hair.

I wouldnt know, i wasnt really watching. I spent all my time watching bergamp. I was worried i would miss something incredible if i took my eyes off him for a second.

[Peter]

Which mean nothing, of course. :-)

[Luis Anaconda]

Last time I had a night in. ******* Bayern - enjoying their defeat led to me having a few more than I meant to last night

[Ashberto]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

They can't go out surely.

2-0 home win and back on track.

[Ashberto]

could produce their own.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I bet jorge dreams of being prom queen. He seems to have been taken over completley by American 'culture'. :-(

[Classic Jorge]

And, as WUMs go, this is quite dull and unimaginative.

You were better when you were modd

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

The use or or analysis of stats is a great thing for the managers and professionals involved in the sport.

The thing is that they are used and viewed as a whole and not just the fact that player A covered 10k in a game, for example. You or I probably could not even begin to know the full range and definitions of what they look at.

As you say, it (data analysis) was used as a tool early in the decision by the club which ultimately saw Gabriel arrive.


The thing I hate intensely about the assist stat is well documented. It is too simplistic, too singular in its award.

As an example think fondly of Pires' winner in the cup semi final at Old Trafford against Spurs. A wonderful moment in time, a goal created and made almost entirely by one man.

Not the man who go the assist mind you.

[ITSUPFORGRABSNOW]

Poor old Rixey never really got close to filling his boots

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

You are looking at Williams going when Thomas broke through into that area of the field, then Richardson pushing Davis out of the way when the glory days of 1989 arrived.

[Ashberto]

:gromit:

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Ashberto]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I doff my cap to Croydon and the people of:

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[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, they're brown but it's also they're subjects of her maj. I'd imagine that would cause conflicting feelings for the boy, Clive.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I would dearly love to us it in everyday conversation though it will lose a little in translation.

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Croydon's moment of fame.

This quote, Kate Moss and that enormous fire in the furniture store during the riots.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

"dribble up the right side till the defender closes, trap ball, turn, pass back to fullback."

Was really sad given his earlier abilities.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

I was so young then...