Can people stop ruining the football with all this Title race talk.

[Pat Vegas]

We've been no a good run and we'll have a positive end of the season. but no need to ruin it with all this title talk. The last month or so has been very refreshing.


Also I like modd but if he is for real he might actually be r'tard. Every single time we win a game you go no this and you read stuff like 'It's in our hands' 'The Russians' ZZZZZZZZZ

[Ashberto]

;-)

[The Tony]

[Classic Jorge]

You can't have one without the other, which I know sounds quite tempting

[Monty91]

Though having owned one for almost a year, I am still ambivalent about the net value of dishwashers

[Pokster]

so can pop loads in the dishwasher at once

[Berni]

The idea of being without a dishwasher fills me with horror.

I'm going to buy a new oven shortly. I'm pathetically excited poring over all the options. :cloud9:

[redgunamo]

[Monty91]

and the stuff that needs rinsing before putting it in the dishwasher and the stuff the dishwasher doesn't clean properly.

Then there's the loading and unloading.

I'm unconvinced.

[Trixie Popsicle]

which I've never used. :hide:

[Monty91]

and yet let him drink from an unsteralised sippy cup, not to mention shove food in his mouth that's fallen on the floor and the like.

Why do bottles need to be steralised but noting else?

[Berni]

Or that you don't cook anything interesting enough to create a lot of washing up.

[Berni]

I was happy to let one go, but this is too much!

[Monty91]

I still reckon, on balance, I'd prefer to just wash it all up (which should take no more than 10 minutes between two of you)

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

You sound to me equivalent to someone saying he'd rather take his clothes to the river and beat them on a rock than stick them in the washing machine.

[Monty91]

daily basis is at the very least equal to that required to wash up manually.

It's quite simply a false economy.

I should also say that it sounds like you don't own many kitchen utensils that are too expensive to put in the dishwasher. Who's the Jew now?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

When it ruins them, I throw them away and buy new ones.

Who's the jew now?

[Berni]

What else?

[2 Strikers?]

the key comes down to just how 'clean' are you getting things.

Most dishwashers will have a rinse/dry cycle exceeding 80 degrees, this is as close to sterile you'll get domestically.

Hand-washing? the hottest temp before potential scalding is about 50 degrees and that's assuming you rinse before drying.
Do you use tea towels or air dry?

Its all about the hygiene and how far you want to take it.

[Berni]

I must admit, I do blench somewhat when I see you put good knives in there. A small part of me wants to weep.

[2 Strikers?]

which part?

[Monty91]

Your mum, natch. The list goes on.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Classic Jorge]

You know, all Howard Hughesy

[Monty91]

[Berni]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Is the whole point not to dispose of them, in a bin.

[Berni]

You are clearly too neurotic and Jewish about it.

[2 Strikers?]

Not at all,

I am a professional caterer so have a mind for this sort of thing.

Monty's assertions re labour and costs are valid.
The only valid arguments for having a dishwasher are:
1. you don't want to wash up by hand with your partner drying/putting away/criticizing your washing up
2. you freak about germs et al
3. you feel obliged to have one as they've gone to all the effort of making them and telling you you want one

[2 Strikers?]

sounds like you're a manual man then. more cupboard space for you when you bin the broken machine.
Happy days

[Classic Jorge]

Not only does the dishwasher's heat kill all of the germs, a judicious opening just after it's stopped dries the **** in there too.

Ultimately, life is too short for washing up, as evidenced by the popularity of dishwashers.

[2 Strikers?]

didn't think of that one. Poor you.

Thought you were either excited by his largesse or mortified by his extravagant waste

[Monty91]

[Monty91]

See germ freak Jorge

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It's all about time and motion.

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

Douchbag

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

just not so "we're going to win everything every year" as some on here

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

A realist as opposed to a chip pisser.

[Classic Jorge]

[Red N White Army]

need to sterilise after 12 months

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I allow myself to dream.

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

whether anybody actually uses them or not.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Sadly we were still behind them even with the calculations.