Someone mentioned 'Cultural Marxism' on here today. Just fyi, it's an oxymoron and refers to "any

[the splendor of antigone]

social change post-1950 I'm frightened by". It's a right-wing bogeyman that has no relevance to anyone on the Marxist left.

What the people who use this term take offense to is rather neoliberal identity politics which is avowedly anti-Marxist.

Hope we can all remain close friends :thumbup:

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

'Cultural Marxism' at the BBC (she said it live on Radio 2 and was not taken to task over it as she also said a lot of other crap re the sacking). I find it somewhat ludicrous that people think the Beeb is a hotbed of 'Cultural Marxism'.

[Ashberto]

[Ashberto]

clue what they're on about. Like your 'Angry of Tunbridge Wells' there.

Though of course, the BBC is doubtless a hotbed of neoliberal identity politics.

[the splendor of antigone]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

and not run crying to A&E. Unbelievable, Jeff.

[the splendor of antigone]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5314781.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Jeremy-Clarkson-suspended.jpg
looks to be about half JC's size...I suspect if he had been more of a match then JC would have just shouted at him :shrug:

[barrybueno]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

Oh, hang on :-)

[Supermac1976]

:hehe:

[barrybueno]

[Berni]

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

but he does look eminently punchable, for some reason.

[the splendor of antigone]

incumbent on him/her to knock his f**king block off. Not people in general, only that piss-stained bostonbrian :thumbup:

[the splendor of antigone]

[Berni]

You might as well say that Islamic terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, despite being committed exclusively by muslims.

[Supermac1976]

Oh hang on, no it's not. :hehe:

[the splendor of antigone]

production, or class.
Identity politics replaces a collective sense of identity based on material social relations with a ****e individualistic sense of identity based on sexuality, race, etc.

[Berni]

leftyness is to root for the underdog, so the more underdoggy someone is (by virtue of being black, crippled, a woman or whatever), the more lefty points they get and the more difficult it becomes for their fellow lefties to gainsay them. Hence their concerns rise to the top of the lefty agenda.

[the splendor of antigone]

choices, to be more individually conscientious in how they speak and what language they use, etc.
There's no relation to the material relations of production.

If you're talking about benefitting certain marginalized groups through redistribution of ressources, that's just neoliberal identity politics, really.
A pwopah Marxist (trademarked and copyrighted) believe in all peoples uniting on the basis of shared material interests to overthrow the system of capitalism and do away with the need for redistribution within capitalism altogether.
Identity Politics is anathema to that project, and is entirely within the logic of late capitalism.

[Berni]

left. Stop getting hung up on Marxism. Everyone's moved on from it, since it was ****.

[the splendor of antigone]

capitalism to arrive at a non-gendered and ethnically diverse workforce, through **** like political correctness, identity politics, etc.

[Ashberto]

by transforming society to a superior mode of production (however mistaken that aspiration may have been). :rolleyes:

All this 'lefty *******s' as you see it is just career opportunities for talentless arts graduates since the working class was destroyed as a political force, a destruction hastened, it should be said, by the divisions of the working class caused by identity politics. Hence your 'left' is very much a part of capitalism, as splenders has been saying.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

capitalism? Realistically, I mean...not in an ideal world scenario.

[the splendor of antigone]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Mo Britain less Europe]

[Berni]

left of the political spectrum.