Poll Poll

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

With not long to go until the GE 2015...what are awimb's intentions?

[Classic Jorge]

Leaning towards the yoghurt knitters as they don't seem to be arseholes. I'm not entirely sure they're competent but, quite frankly, I don't think that has been a massive barrier for the last couple.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Classic Jorge]

I thought Dave wanted everybody who's ever been in politics there.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Supermac1976]

[Classic Jorge]

Does anybody know an "Enoch" on the other side?

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[Classic Jorge]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Jake]

Also I don't like the sound of that mansion tax business.

I intend to have a mansion at some point.

[Berni]

[Pat Vegas]

and I dislike them all.

I might want to get a mortgage soon. who has the best policy on that?

[Classic Jorge]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Pat Vegas]

Buying a place in Italy however. But this is cheap as chips compared to UK.

[Winston Wolfe]

And Farage being a douche (to use youthful parlance)

[Brentwood]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Classic Jorge]

I think May may well be a bloodbath for Labour tbh, not to mention the libs.

The greens seem to have done a better job of splitting the left vote than UKIP have on the right.

[Winston Wolfe]

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[Pat Vegas]

buying/taking over one of her brothers places.

The mortgage is ridiculously cheap.

[Berni]

hat by a Tory government imo. Voting Green is just silly.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

Would it not be better to look at policies and such like?

[Berni]

cutting off your nose to spite your face. :thumbup:

[Supermac1976]

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[Berni]

Policies matter a lot less than everyone supposes.

[Classic Jorge]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Berni]

rather than being boring, hard-nosed and pragmatic enough to realise that it's better to swallow the stuff you don't like in order to get the stuff you do.

And, of course the Labour politicians who actually were cynical and pragmatic enough to realise this and thus win elections(Wilson and Blair) were and are hated more by their own side than by their opponents.

[Supermac1976]

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[Berni]

totally abhorrent to the electorate when push comes to shove. They will just not vote for him in droves.

After all, it did for Kinnock and he was much more credible than Miliband. And he was Welsh, ffs!

[Ashberto]

the house with the intelligence to oppose Cameron's utterly mental and disastrous Libyan intervention.

Some might claim that there was no way of knowing how much it would f**k up the region but those of us who have never swallowed the cool-aid guff about such humanitarian bull**** operations predicted this would happen.

Besides, it's tradition for Islington North to have a Labour MP.

[Classic Jorge]

Strange to see him vote for TTIP and the extrajudicial courts ruling though, he was never that in fear of the whip previously.

[Berni]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9SIVMQvQkc

[Ashberto]

[barrybueno]

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

Or are you just following the time-old internet tradition of basically Godwinising the f**k out of anything one disgrees with?

[Classic Jorge]

Do I think they are racists? Yes

Do I think they are a weird, proto-christian hate groups from the deep south of the US who lynch people? No

[Ashberto]

anyone who doesn't embrace multiculturalism, on the grounds that there is no alternative (there is an alternative imo). Apologies if I misunderstood your position, of course.

[Classic Jorge]

And given everyone else was against multiculturalism, without being able to nail down what it is, and yet I didn't call anywon a racialist I'm not sure how you got that from that.

You know full well the UKIPs are racists though, I mean the documentary a couple of weeks back would tell you that, not to mention most of them will tell you what colour "some of my best friends..." are.

Also, what's the alternative? I was thinking about this in terms of how we spin it out into all of the other isms and discriminations too.

[Ashberto]

The melting pot that has worked in this country to absorb newcomers for hundreds and more years.

[Classic Jorge]

I don't know if you also picked up the main thrust of my point on that discussion but it was more about multiculturalism being a pointless sticking plaster on the gaping wound of inequality, which is the real problem anyway.

[Ashberto]

It's a decent point you tried to make about inequality, but plenty of the most radical haters of the west (the 911 bombers, for example) were middle-class, educated westerners.

[Classic Jorge]

The 911 bombers weren't our problem, or at least not one we could do anything about.

[the splendor of antigone]

economy with free trade, free capital mobility, free movement, migration, etc.-- we can avoid "multiculturalism"? Is it not in the so-called cultural logic of late capitalism?

[Ashberto]

with strident identity politics. They don't have to go together.

[the splendor of antigone]