So let me get this straight, if Charlie is right, the following scenario is offside:

[Monty91]

Player A and B are attackers. Player C is a defender.

Player A passes the ball forward to Player B who is onside due to the position of Player C.

Player C moves to intercept the pass, at which point Player B has strayed behind Player C. Player C scuffs his interception and the ball spins back into the path of Player B who has a clear run on goal.

Do you mean to tell me that in this instance, the rules state that Player B is offside??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? ????????????????????????????????????????

Or am I being dumb?

[Billy Goat Sverige]

play the ball and should mean player b is onside. Why should a defender be compensated for being ****?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Monty91]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/ 02/10/67/39/circularno.1362-amendmentstothelawsofthegame-201 3-2014_neutral.pdf (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/02/10/67/39/circularno.1362-amendmentstothelawsofthegame-2013-2014_neutral.pdf)

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Player B is onside because he was when the pass was made by his team mate, the defender has just made a mistake.

I think.

[Monty91]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I would say that Clive is right about the law, but wrong to apply it to the situation last night.

[Monty91]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I'm not having this new Clive Rule one bit.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

We have now established that such a law exists. Clive just applied it incorrectly.

[Monty91]

What does Player C have to do with this scenario?

[Monty91]

in the season, Sanzhez would have been offside? :hehe:

[Berni]

[Monty91]

[Classic Jorge]

It'll stop soon, Inshallan

[Pokster]

so no matter what happens after that he is still onside unless player A touches the ball again and it goes forward.

Last night he was given offisde because
a) the lino thought it was an Arsenal player that headed it
b) the lino thought he was offside when the free kick was taken.

It's not hard

[Monty91]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

In your original scenario player B was onside when the final pass from a team mate was made.

Given no further interaction from a team mate - the only other person who touches the ball in the interim is C, a defender - I cannot understand how a previous onside position then becomes an offside position.

[Berni]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

This is how it works

Player A try's to play a through ball to player B who is offside, the ball is intercepted by player C (so player B hasn't attempted to play the ball so can't be given offside), player C then decides to play a pass whcih player B intercepts and scores from. Player B isn't offside because player C has played a deliberate pass

Last night was a red herring

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Go play with the alphabet blocks for a while or something.

[Berni]

Admiral Allan Hugh Akhbar.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081118162020/starwars/images/f/fb/Ackbar_HS.jpg

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Pokster]

[Monty91]

[Monty91]

[redgunamo]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Had he inadvertantly deflected the ball, Koscielny would have been offside.

Hence, Clive was right, but wrong.

[Monty91]

No, just no.

This cannot be true.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

So, by definition, it's true.

[Monty91]

from an attacker, falling over, allowing a previously onside attacker to run pick up he ball and score being offside?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

If, in the fraction of a second between this deliberate touch and the indvertant touch occasioned by the falling over, the attcker runs into an offside position, then he will, indeed, be offside.

[Monty91]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Pokster]

I have explained it twice FFS

[Bergkamp's Brain]

Gaining an advantage by being in that position means

1) A player playing a ball that rebounds to him off a post or crossbar, having previously been in an offside position

2) A player playing a ball that rebounds to him off an opponnent, having previously been in an offside position

I cannot find any other place where the deliberate or not a deliberate touch by an opponent makes any difference.

All I can conclude is that Clive was being a total scum sucker