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Nicosia Gooner
03-13-2015, 03:39 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals- network/2015/mar/13/white-people-expats-immigrants-migration ?CMP=fb_gu (http://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2015/mar/13/white-people-expats-immigrants-migration?CMP=fb_gu)

Why are white people expats when the rest of us are immigrants?

Surely any person going to work outside their country is an expatriate? But no, the word exclusively applies to white people

In the lexicon of human migration there are still hierarchical words, created with the purpose of putting white people above everyone else. One of those remnants is the word “expat”.


What is an expat? And who is an expat? According to Wikipedia, “an expatriate (often shortened to expat) is a person temporarily or permanently residing in a country other than that of the person’s upbringing. The word comes from the Latin terms ex (“out of”) and patria (“country, fatherland”)”.

Defined that way, you should expect that any person going to work outside of his or her country for a period of time would be an expat, regardless of his skin colour or country. But that is not the case in reality; expat is a term reserved exclusively for western white people going to work abroad.

Africans are immigrants. Arabs are immigrants. Asians are immigrants. However, Europeans are expats because they can’t be at the same level as other ethnicities. They are superior. Immigrants is a term set aside for ‘inferior races’.

Don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal, the leading financial information magazine in the world, has a blog dedicated to the life of expats and recently they featured a story ‘Who is an expat, anyway?’. Here are the main conclusions: “Some arrivals are described as expats; others as immigrants; and some simply as migrants. It depends on social class, country of origin and economic status. It’s strange to hear some people in Hong Kong described as expats, but not others. Anyone with roots in a western country is considered an expat … Filipino domestic helpers are just guests, even if they’ve been here for decades. Mandarin-speaking mainland Chinese are rarely regarded as expats … It’s a double standard woven into official policy.”


The reality is the same in Africa and Europe. Top African professionals going to work in Europe are not considered expats. They are immigrants. Period. “I work for multinational organisations both in the private and public sectors. And being black or coloured doesn’t gain me the term “expat”. I’m a highly qualified immigrant, as they call me, to be politically correct,” says an African migrant worker.

Most white people deny that they enjoy the privileges of a racist system. And why not? But our responsibility is to point out and to deny them these privileges, directly related to an outdated supremacist ideology. If you see those “expats” in Africa, call them immigrants like everyone else. If that hurts their white superiority, they can jump in the air and stay there. The political deconstruction of this outdated worldview must continue

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 03:46 PM
Africans are immigrants. Arabs are immigrants. Asians are immigrants. However, Europeans are expats because they can’t be at the same level as other ethnicities. They are superior. Immigrants is a term set aside for ‘inferior races’.

Lets face it, even tho Europe has some right toilets in it the world would be a better place if it was one big Europe.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 03:46 PM
You're right though. That's another absolute corker in the Guardianista's 'Moaning and whining about f**k all' armoury.

Billy Goat Sverige
03-13-2015, 03:50 PM
labelled. Swedes see me as an immigrant, i might refer to myself as an expat (never have or will mind you).

Is a black fella from the western world not an expat then for the purpose of his/her argument?

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 03:51 PM

Nicosia Gooner
03-13-2015, 03:51 PM

Billy Goat Sverige
03-13-2015, 03:53 PM

Nicosia Gooner
03-13-2015, 03:54 PM

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:01 PM
Very popular with the type of people who live in the south of spain and travel to Gibraltar regularly so they can go to Morrisons

Billy Goat Sverige
03-13-2015, 04:02 PM
she lists from referring to themselves as expats. People refer to themselves as expats, to the people of the country playing host to you (in my case Sweden), i'm an immigrant just like everyone else.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:04 PM
Similarly, you may think you're a traveller, but to the locals you're just a tourist.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:04 PM
Any chance to single out the brits, eh, you bloody racist.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:05 PM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:06 PM
Europeans working temporarily. And I've always understood it to mean a temporary resident, anyway.

Plus, crucially, who gives a f**k?

It's odd that both my parents came to this country from other European countries and were most definitely considered immigrants, and neither of them, as far as I can remember, was black.

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:06 PM
I also have a similar disdain for those who use the term "Spag Bol"

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:07 PM
Are they expats?

Luis Anaconda
03-13-2015, 04:08 PM
not as bad as the ones you mention, but you would rather avoid - but there is definitely a type

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 04:08 PM
The f**king c**ts

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:09 PM
the English, however much you might wish to.

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:09 PM
Notice how it's in the global professionals network rather than big paper though.

Luis Anaconda
03-13-2015, 04:10 PM
magazine. If you are going to get picky about terms at least use the right ones

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:10 PM
The noisy, drunken *******s.

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:10 PM
More specifically the english.

I wonder if you get scotch expats, I bet the bloke monty met last night was one

Ashberto
03-13-2015, 04:11 PM
It seems the author of the piece hadn't noticed that.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:12 PM

Luis Anaconda
03-13-2015, 04:12 PM
plus Aussies and Kiwis - these two particularly

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:12 PM

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:12 PM
If you're middle class and something in the oil industry, you're an expat.

If you have the arse out of your trousers and are living in a B&B, you're an immigrant.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:13 PM

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:14 PM
I doubt many people can say they've worked in Paris, Amsterdam and Dublin.

Also, are you sure you want to start implying some form of parochialism, seriously?

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:14 PM
One rarely hears the term used by permanent migrants - unless they're the type who, despite moving permanently, have some vague idea of one day returning 'home'. But this is a small and somewhat tragic group.

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:15 PM
Much better for them to be feeling like a foreigner in a foreign country

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 04:15 PM

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:16 PM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:16 PM
make it the far east j. And Dublin is a God-forsaken speck of fly **** in the middle of the Atlantic.

No, I mean travel qua travel. You know, seeing the world, going to 5 star hotel bars and chatting with expats. It broadens the mind.

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 04:18 PM
A bit like this one really.

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
03-13-2015, 04:18 PM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:18 PM
I suppose the pension doesn't stretch so far these days...

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:19 PM

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:20 PM
y'know, what with kids and stuff it's not easy

Luis Anaconda
03-13-2015, 04:21 PM
for "English" speakers - the only time I went to one I ended up in a conversation with a Portugueser, an Austrian and an American. There is a definite atmosphere of superiority and only really being here for the well-paid (or any) jobs. They might just all work for Siemens or Allianz though which would explain a lot

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:21 PM
Mind you, most of them are only permanent residents for complicated legal reasons to do with some bloke who had his kneecaps shot off in 1972.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:23 PM
Singapore for Singapore Slings in the Long Bar at Raffles, Aviations at the Bamboo Bar in the Oriental in Bangkok and dry Martinis at the Captain's Bar in the Mandarin in Hong Kong.

You have exceptional taste, j.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:23 PM

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:24 PM

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 04:24 PM
I don't need one as Tony Blair and his wonderful government brought all these lovely people to my own country.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:24 PM
Surely one can't immigrate within the EU? Just as one can't 'export' goods within the EU. The principle of free movement of goods and people applies, surely?

Classic Jorge
03-13-2015, 04:26 PM
Sorry Peter

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:27 PM
I'm told the pollution has to be breathed to be believed. Spending a day there is supposed to be equivalent to smoking 40 fags. :-(

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:27 PM

Luis Anaconda
03-13-2015, 04:28 PM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:28 PM
I'm not going to be giving my money to support a commie state though. No sirree.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:29 PM

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:31 PM
had running them - only in different uniforms? You couldn't have a democratic China, ffs. They wouldn't know what to do with it.

Berni
03-13-2015, 04:34 PM
And it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens, I can tell you.

barrybueno
03-13-2015, 04:35 PM

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:51 PM
That's enough evidence for me.

Sir Charlie of Nicholas
03-13-2015, 04:57 PM
A most obliging chap, apparently.

Nicosia Gooner
03-13-2015, 06:32 PM