We've got real problems with Russia don't we? Mr Putin, like every

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

crooked autocrat before him, cannot afford to lose power because his successor will almost certainly have him arrested and imprisoned, possibly executed, so with the Rouble tumbling the time honoured 'enemy without' ruse is his only remaining option.

Flying close to our air-space is nothing to do with testing how efficiently the RAF respond. He's testing our politcial mettle and we've been found to be trembly lipped and frit.

Of course, if it were simply a reconnaissance sortie in lieu of plans to wipe Padstow and Wadebridge off the face of the earth, this is perfectly acceptable.

[Classic Jorge]

Several eye witness accounts, admittedly people from Cornwall, have actually said they saw the Bear Bomber flying inland. But for some reason this has been downplayed quite heavily, I'm not sure who by.

It does rather beg the question of why Davey is so scared to stand up to the Poot though.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Rich]

I'm going to guess that they did not.

[Classic Jorge]

I don't think him saying "Oi Ivan, fly over our country uninvited again and I'll give you a slap" would count as warmongering.

[Herbette Chapman - aged 15]

be spinning in their graves. The next time the dirty, slav kunt-warblers do it should shoot them out of the kunting sky!

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.slobodaiprosperitet.tv/sites/default/files/images/a_man_who_does_not_think.preview.jpg

[Rich]

some Cornish blokes saying they are sure they saw it.

I imagine what they saw was a B747 on the way to the Caribbean. They're not the brightest folk, down there.

[Classic Jorge]

You've been to Public School too so they'd let you be PM.

Dave out! Herb in!

[Pokster]

towards an aeroplane, all you'll see in the background is sky, so how the hell do you prove it was over land????

[Rich]

Has it not occurred to you that you wouldn't be able to see a Tu-95 at 45,000 feet?

Stop being a conspiracy loony.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Hardly diplomatic.

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

You must admit Dave does seem a bit gaseous on the whole Russia issue.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

That said incident did not occur?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

been diverted all over the shop and every spotter with an air/ground scanner would have recorded it and put it on youtube.

Have you got your tinfoil hat tied on nice and tight?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

They weren't flightplanned, and they weren't squawking. That's what they do. It's dangerous and it's provocative, but it's NOT an invasion of UK airspace.

[Pokster]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I am a man of peace.

I just wasn't sure if young Dicky was suggesting said incident never actually occurred at all.

[Classic Jorge]

He needs to grow some balls and make a statement imo

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

He has made a statement.

'David Cameron said he thought the Russians were trying to make "some sort of a point" after two Russian Bear bombers were spotted off the coast of Cornwall, but that he didn't deem it necessary to dignify them with too much of a response.'

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

What the f**k was she doing looking at the sky in a driving lesson



http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/19/russian-bombe r-flew-inland-cornwall-uk-airspace-witness (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/19/russian-bomber-flew-inland-cornwall-uk-airspace-witness)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

We know the drill. Tories bad, posh people bad, UK bad, USA bad. :shrug:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

So the two Typhoons which intercepted it at 40,000 ft sat and waved at it as it descended 39,500 into a Cornish valley, and only a couple of people noticed an aeroplane the size of several houses floating around.

Right.

[Classic Jorge]

The lad's barely even turned up for friendlies, let alone given a good account of himself in the qualifiers.

Also, has it not escaped your notice I am, if anything, even more scathing about Labor?

[Classic Jorge]

Though I suspect it might've said something unkind about HSBC as I can't find it any more.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

actually having to think.

I hold no particular candle for Cameron (other than on a personal level, knowing him to be a nice chap) and I disagree with some of what he has done; I just find kneejerk dismissal of everything a bit 5th form.

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, I can't be disparaging about the Tories alone, we've established that. I can't be equally sceptical of both, apparently. Surely supporting both would seem facile and logically inconsistent.

Don't get me wrong but it does basically seem like the only way you'd be happy with is that I supported the tories despite all of my beliefs and their pisspoor performances.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You can look at Cameron's recent reaction to Russia and consider that it's perfectly feasible that he is keeping his gob shut as the European reaction is being led by Merkel and Hollande, because that is what was agreed. Or that, with an election looming, he would rather keep a low profile publicly whilst beavering away behind the scenes. Or any other number of possible scenarios - but you're so caught up in being right on that all you can do is rant about oligarchs and make up conspiracy theories based on nothing but your need to justify having your poster of Che on the wall.

[Classic Jorge]

Which, if anything is truly, truly childish. Not unlike the way you literally always, without fail, drag the argument down into an ad hominem one as soon as anybody challenges you.

[Brentwood]

http://i.imgur.com/wBhi4r9.jpg

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You have got a poster though, haven't you? :hehe:

[Rich]

Anyway, it wouldn't have been visibile from the ground so of course nobody saw it.

It did not invade UK airspace. Remember that Latvian plane that did a few months ago and we said that they needed to respond now or they would be shot down - the same would go for the Russians. The same would be true if we invaded their airspace.

[Classic Jorge]

It's literally the most postmodern ironic thing in the world

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Rich]

Sir Charlie wrote on Fri, 20 February 2015 14:15



So the two Typhoons which intercepted it at 40,000 ft sat and waved at it as it descended 39,500 into a Cornish valley, and only a couple of people noticed an aeroplane the size of several houses floating around.

Right.