Watched "Blackhat" again last night. Marvellous stuff.

[redgunamo]

Astonishing.

[Ben.]

[Berni]

way. I think there's dialogue, too, but I forget.

[Brentwood]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

We seem to sit on Thomas' shoulder, denied a broad view or indeed, a context for each scene; we peer claustrophobically at apparently unconnected events, yet find ourselves with just enough information to follow the narrative arc.

Rylance is a clever chap, as well.

[Classic Jorge]

[Ghost of Highbury]

have a look at Intimacy.

You get to see his cock & balls in full on engorged Kerry Fox bothering action!

Shocking stuff..

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

remarkably naturalistic. I do love Rylance's acting, though. His puffed-up ebullience after knobbing his sister-in-law genuinely had me chuckling - until he found out Wolsey was dead of course.

I also like how genuinely unpleasant Thomas More is.

[ArseMart - Enjoy every sandwich]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[redgunamo]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

The fat, ugly sow.

We know from Bolt and, indeed, Scofield, what a charming, if obstinate, man More was.

[Berni]

institution of monarchy that dominated its governance for most of the last 2,000 years. How's that going, by the way? :hehe:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Attlee insisted on rising from his sick bed to attend, despite medical advice to the contrary.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Apparently.

[Berni]

called Jasper Ridley. In it, you will realise that More was a dogmatic sadist who enjoyed torturing and burning protestants very much. Some of them at his own house. Vicious little c**t imo. Deserved a much nastier death than he got.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

hb btw.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

'*******s'.

Anyway, if it was only protestants who got it...

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

But obviously a television adaptation of a novel would be a great help, I'm sure.

[Classic Jorge]

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[redgunamo]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

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What the hell does this stuff mean?

[redgunamo]

I shall just sit here and mutter; talk about football instead perhaps.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

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[Berni]

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[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[redgunamo]

How did your tryst with the Boy George go, by the way?

[Classic Jorge]

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[Berni]

quite simply where everything happened, so, whether you get excited about them or not, if you want to understand European history, you'd better get down with the Kings 'n Queens and Dukes and Landgraves and Emperors 'n ****.

And good historical fiction is an excellent didactic tool. You'll learn more about the Tudors from Mantel's books than I'll wager you ever learned in school.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

The rest of the band were... displeased.

[Berni]

What's wrong with you, man?

[redgunamo]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Have you assaulted George's throat in some way?

Hang on - perhaps it would be better if you didn't tell me.

[Classic Jorge]

I'd counsel against the idea of learning stuff from dramatic recreations of anything though, purely on the grounds of how many filters it's been through.

You might as well listen to someone in a pub. It's entertainment, and what's more it's entertainment based on a subject I just don't find very interesting.

Dont kid yourself it's some sort of historical exercise.

[redgunamo]

And probably not after either.

[Berni]

Is he still painting the underside of his face black to try and hide his double chin? That was very funny.

[Classic Jorge]

For most other people it won't though, heres what other people see:



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[Luis Anaconda]

Reading Johnson's biography of Churchill and now you've given away that he dies in the end :shout:

[Classic Jorge]

Both Paxman and Atlee

[Berni]

Speak a lot of Latin and ancient French, do you? Go on a lot of archaeological digs?

All history - fictionalised or not - has been through untold numbers of filters. The trick is knowing what and whose the filters are and judging accordingly.

Besides, Mantel's historical research for these novels has been famously exhaustive and professional, so you'd be surprised.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

be the last bastion of Churchill's values.

Coincidence or reincarnation? You decide.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

that she is a fat, minging leftist.

[Luis Anaconda]

Piers Morgan
Journalist
Piers Stefan Pughe-Morgan, known professionally as Piers Morgan
Born: March 30, 1965 (age 49),

[Classic Jorge]

I'm fine with historical drama but I don't for one second mistake it for actual history.

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Monstrous Merkel. Nice.

[Berni]

Not being the most monstrous western leader of this generation, I mean. Although Polly Toynbee does seem to be trying to paint him as the devil incarnate in her ludicrous book, so that's alright.

Honestly, the way the lefties are going on about Greece, you'd think they actually believed the krauts were going to cave in because a bunch of ill-shaven university lecturers have got elected.

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

Bit of a leap, I would've thought

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

They really seem to think this will change something; all European governments are going to reject fiscal sense in favour of SPENDING LOADS MORE MONEY!

Daft *******s.

[Berni]

Honestly, though, would it kill them to wear a tie?

[redgunamo]

Very sad, in this day and age, but there it is.

[Berni]

have to pay your bills, it's bound to sound attractive, isn't it? Obviously, they're promising something they can't deliver, but even so.

I think it's the collective damp knickers it seems to be giving the left in this country that bothers me more. Do they never learn?

[Berni]

You never can tell.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Just in case... No. They never learn.

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

least of your worries.

[Berni]

Some Pakistani singer is all I can find and even he/she is now dead.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Who have you got then?

[redgunamo]

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