This teacher who shagged a 16 year old and the judge said he got 'groomed' by her.

[Berni]

I find it rather strange that a teacher can be prosecuted for having sex with a girl in their care who is over the age of consent, but if that self-same girl is not in school and her employer (who is arguably in a much greater position of power over her) has sex with her, that's legally fine and dandy.

Or, to take another example, a teacher could have sex with an 18 year-old doing her A-Levels and he's liable for prosecution, but a few months later, a tutor who has sex with her at University is not.

It doesn't really add up to me. :shrug:

[barrybueno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL4xRwl1f3A

[Pokster]

an athletics coach coahed a girl from the age of 12, when she was 19 they started an affair, he got found guilty of grooming her.

So in the teachers case, IF he had known her from <16 it could be argued that he groomed her from an illegal age

[Berni]

initiator of sex. It also suggests that, if he is a sexual predator, he is at least a very patient and law-abiding one.

[Pokster]

isn't at the same level imo.

She does seem to have been an instigator, but for him to take her back to his house doesn sound like he wasn't exactly against it

[Luis Anaconda]

This joke was brought to you from a 1970s sitcom

[Ashberto]

Isn't this an age where women are supposed to be like ... grown up and able to make their own decisions?

[Berni]

However, what you say seems to suggest that being in a 'position of trust' with someone is incompatible with having sex with them. Since the law states that anyone over 16 is legally competent to decide whether or not to have sex, you have to ask why having sex with a teacher is any different to having sex with anyone else?

The way the law works seems to suggest that this girl lost all ability to take responsibility for her sexual behaviour because she was in a school rather than in an office.

[Berni]

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

[Pokster]

and knew her before she was 16 then he might have been grooming her.

An employer is not placed in a position of trust, as the girl has an option to work for him or not, she is also unlikely to have been employed before she was 16.

[Berni]

Whether he knew her before she was 16 seems irrelevant to me. If I were to have sex with an 16 year-old friend of my daughter I've known since she was 10, people would rightly say I was a disgusting old wrongun, but the law would have no issue with it.

On the other hand, a teacher who may only have known a girl of 16 when she was 16 is a committing a criminal offence by sleeping with her? It's logically inconsistent and seems like extremely bad law.

[Ashberto]

Did I understand that at the age of 19, she is still not considered a functioning adult if she does rumpy-pumpy with a former teacher.

At what age is she considered a consenting adult in these circumstances?

[Snin]

[Berni]

Your definition of 'getting away with it' clearly differs from mine.

Also, we don't know if she was hot.

[Berni]

I don't know who drew up this law, but I'm going to guess it was one of Labour's.

[Classic Jorge]

Have you seen Cameron's recent wheeze about banning all encryption?

[Berni]

They don't normally get to law like that, though.

However, Blair's governments had a particular gift for creating and enacting some genuinely amateurish legislation. They were notorious for it.

[Snin]

[Snin]

strange times B strange times

[Classic Jorge]