I got to agree with Ian Wright on something.....

[The Tony]

Been a bit busy at work so haven't had a chance to mention this but I thought his point about THE PLAYERS lacking character was quite on the ball.

His point was that if Moruinho had made the comments about Arsene being a specialist in failure when the likes of Parlour, Vieira, Bergkamp, Pires, Freddy, Ashley, Theirry etc etc were about then there was no way we coming away from Stamford Bridge without a result.

That's 100% true...those guys were a different breed.

I've got no idea what the current bunch are about...maybe they are too young or too pampered like Ozil to care. Maybe theres a completely different culture now,

There's like no passion...very disheartening.

[Dorset Gooner]

of British players & bringing players through. Perhaps those days are long gone. I think even Fergie would struggle with the new breed of player.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I remember well how we surrendered on many occasions in 04-05, particularly against Chelsea at home, when many of the players you mention were in the side.

The fact is that margins are fine. The players of 02-05 weren't superheroes, they were flawed and sometimes prone to failure, just as the present crop are not lily-livered useless losers.

Fine margins.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Which came about because those very players were bullied by Big Fat Sam's orcs.

[gco40203]

there is no fight in the players. Wenger has in last few years scoffed at the concept of the onfield captain being of much relevance because everyone can be a leader. The truth is that at arsenal there are no leaders anymore. No-one to take the team by the scruff of the neck and organise them. All 3 goals on saturday were a shambles...not for the first time. After the first or second one there was no-one to galvanise and organise the team. We just carried on playing the same way and making the same mistakes.

[Bergkamp's Brain]

Our current crop are generally younger (with a few expections) and aren't understanding their roles as quickly as they might under a manager who would drill them in a more dogmatic approach, so are making more mistakes.