Now I do not claim to take the moral high ground when

[Dorset Gooner]

it comes to Arsene & I accept that my opinions such as this one
http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3878 065&rid=66&S=d1614b4a3b64b8bd5f8f86b25069f24c (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?t=tree&goto=3878065&rid=66&S=d1614b4a3b64b8bd5f8f86b25069f24c)
last May are not agreed with by many but I do have respect for him as a man & manager of Arsenal.
The way some of our fans are behaving is despicable. Banners with Wenger out etc are disgraceful at anytime let alone after a win! Then we have grown men fighting over whether he should stay or go, add to this supporters screaming & swearing at him as he boards the train. This is not what Arsenal is about & I for one am utterly ashamed by our supporters.
Regardless of your view this is a human being we are talking about.

[Berni]

Our supporters have been utter scum through good times and it's hardly to be wondered at that they're even worse through what we currently perceive as bad times.

I mean have you seen the pathetic, entitled whinings of these autistic, emotionally retarded f**kpigs on so-called FanTV? The really scary thing is that they're just the relatively coherent and rational tip of the iceberg of **** that makes up much of our fanbase.

[Dorset Gooner]

then low. Came out medium rare but like leather! Is it possible to do a slow long cook & still have it p.i.n.k?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Topside :yikes:

[pjlincs]

some fantastic times. I have been frustrated for a few years like many others about our seeming inability to compete meaningfully at the very top level but unless I could have several hours to have a proper conversation with him I would not offer an opinion. In any case, there is no reason to be rude and disrespectful. Apart from the awful 0-0 home to Blackburn a couple of seasons ago when I was in the block right behind the home bench and did offer a few suggestions from the anonymity of being in the crowd.

[Berni]

[Red N White Army]

[Dorset Gooner]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

unfamiliar to the majority of the population.

This is what 70 years of socialism has brought us. The uglification of everything.

[Dorset Gooner]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

The cheaper cuts of course produce many fine dishes - but topside seems to me useful for nothing save soling shoes.

[Berni]

unlike rib which, while delicious, is a bit fiddly.

[7evens]

and beyond had very little to do with socialism.

[pjlincs]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You have rather upped the ante here.

[Berni]

YOU CAHHHNT!!

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

double it :rubshands:

[Berni]

wd Lidl.

[Dorset Gooner]

[Supermac1976]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

Sirloin's the way forward for your lazy carver. There's also much less waste with sirloin.

[Supermac1976]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

wd ocado.

[Dorset Gooner]

[Berni]

don't really care, but some people really look forward to it. I usually do a trifle, but there must be something nicer one can do? Obviously, Christmas pudding is out due to being rank and inedible.

[Snin]

respect. f**k all to do with socialism , leave that to another argument, its getting very boring

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Snin]

change the record grandad :-)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I do f**k all.

Christmas pudding available for anyone foolish enough to desire such a thing. Otherwise, tough ****, should have eaten more goose if you're still hungry.

[Berni]

Having had their heads filled with absurd ideas of equality, these days, sadly, everyone imagines that their views are valid when they are clearly not. And, what is worse, they all seem to think it is their right, nay duty, to express these worthless opinions in a loud and hectoring voice.

[Rich]

don't deem the target's opinions to be worthy of any respect at all. It also avoids the vulgarity of swearing.

Wd Sir C.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

If respect was the issue, or the fact the he is a human being as Dorset pointed out, then we would all take issue with the verbal baiting of the opposition or that bizarre coincidence that resulted in a succession of Tottenham managers who all happened to have mothers that worked as ladies of the night.

Loyalty to one’s own, should Arsenal supporters barrack Wenger in such a public way.

[Snin]

as are the tory front and backbenches ? its totally irrelevant to any discussion about supporters acting like cnut to wenger..thats all, stop side tracking

[Snin]

[Snin]

[Berni]

I had a most extraordinary experience yesterday. In an effort to combat a truly vicious hangover, I ate a gigantic and - I'll be honest - obscene breakfast in a caff (Two large sausages, double bacon, double black pudding, two eggs, two hash browns, chips, beans, mushrooms, toast, juice, coffee). All was consumed, plate wiped with toast, etc.

All very well, but some while later, I then went on to suffer what I can only describe as a 'whitey'. :-( I looked this up and it seems I may have induced a fairly enormous insulin spike that caused these symptoms. This is a new one on me, I must say.

I then recovered by watching Godzilla and The Dallas Buyers Club under a duvet on the sofa.

[Berni]

are relevant or of interest. Allowing proles to vote was always an error.

[Peter]

Socialism equals equality?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

For example, I remember when we mocked derr dead nazi **** quite brutally.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cLu93VPHXAg/UadVU5Oe-NI/AAAAAAAAMcs/D2GhN62s_2E/s1600/hitler-cartoon.jpg

[Peter]

You do realise that when you and Sir C talk about socialism like this you do start to sound, welll, a little american.

I accept that is not going to go down well in the berni camp. Just trying to help.

[Berni]

educationalists telling people to express themselves when they should in fact be telling them to shut up and go and work with their hands since they're not really suited to anything that involves thinking and nobody wants to hear what they think anyway.

That's what socialism has done. Given people the idea that they're important.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

It may have been the experience of mxing with the sort of chaps who populate these 'cafes' which upset your equilibrium.

[Snin]

socialist states have never been too keen on the whole vote and freedom thig either..the russians and chins were pretty good at keeping there chaps to be respectful and quiet..until the bloody liberal democracies fecked them up.. so just backs up my comment that socialsim cant really take the blame for the whole respect thing. Better to blame Christian Democrats imo. Im a fan of dictatorships in general as the masses are bloody stupid

[Berni]

responsible with it.

Socialism basically created universal suffrage and since then has exploited it by keeping the lower orders onside by promising them free stuff stolen from their betters.

[Peter]

Going back to your classical liberal.

All these c**ts walking round tweeting their opinions...i blame gladstone.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

But 'American'? That's a little below the belt, isn't it?

Why can't you people just stick to the proper form? It's not difficult.

[Berni]

suffrage. The two are intertwined.

[Berni]

There was a pile of 'newspapers' in there for patrons. But they all had red tops. And they didn't have any news in them. I asked if they had a copy of The Telegraph, but to no avail. :-(

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It is all becoming very unseemly but as always with football things can and will change quite quickly, a win next weekend against the team we are playing and this weekend’s demonstrations will be history as will the result.

Should add that I have no idea what specifically has happened this weekend.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

supporters.

There are many people who appear to be in a semi-permanent state of rage. They would do well to calm themselves.

[Peter]

Tetchy relationship with socialism from the very beginning.

To confuse the two is to thoroughly misrepresent british politics.

And you know that so stop it :-)

[Ashberto]

Not much socialism around then.

[Snin]

uppity little f**kers should have stayed in there council estates and just been happy rather than getting ideas above there stations

[Peter]

And would you like to explain it to our mutual hero?

Well, not hero exactly, but you know who i mean :-)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

We almost had our own storming of the winter palace, but ours was to have taken place at the O2. Happily, One Direction were playing and the DLR to north Greenwich was too rammed for the Red Guards to get on.

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Snin]

they werent too keen on democracy or not having respect and didnt seem very **** either ?

[Supermac1976]

Oh hang on, were you taking the piss? :homer:

BTW did anyone sort you out with that Highbury murder mystery DVD? If not, I've found my copy at the bottom of my desk draw if you want it.

[Ashberto]

[Peter]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Peter]

What sort of fan are you?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I have sworn never to visit the place again.

[pjlincs]

the smoked Austrian stuff that comes in a sausage-like wrap that isn't really cheese.
Plus home-made mince pies available too.

[Bergkamp's Brain]