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One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 10:47 AM
Pace, power, teamwork, discipline and players fighting for each other.

As a manager, he's a curious hybrid of George Graham and Arsene Wenger. He insists on his teams playing with pace, skill and power and indulges his flair players, but also insists on tactical discipline, teamwork and huge physical effort.

Dortmund are imploding right now through a combination of limited resources, Bayern stealing (ahem, 'signing') all their best players, injuries and bad luck, but what Klopp did in taking a club on the verge of bankruptcy, a threadbare squad and no financial resources to compete on transfers and then lead them to back-to-back Bundesliga titles is nothing short of miraculous.

Klopp is also a developmental manager that works well with young talents and can compete on lower transfer budgets than his rivals. He's tailor-made for Arsenal.

He'd also be guaranteed to wipe the smug smile off Mourinho's face.

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 10:55 AM
have no plan B, are defensively weak, and have a tendency to implode.

CrossGun
11-23-2014, 10:58 AM
They're in the relegation zone i think, poor management or are we blaming the players on this one?

One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 10:59 AM
Not to mention competing with a club even richer than us that can distort (code for 'poison') fair competition in the league they play in.

Klopp is fighting Bayern with one hand tied behind his back.

With Arsenal he'd have far greater resources to compete.

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 11:01 AM
They aren't 'fighting Bayern', they're in, like, 17th place.

CrossGun
11-23-2014, 11:06 AM

One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 11:13 AM
injured, Subotic is struggling for form and fitness after a long-term injury, Piszczek sadly looks like a different player after long-term injury etc, etc.

Defensively they've collapsed, but offensively they've scored more than the fifth-placed team in the Bundesliga...

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 11:17 AM
Durm, Sokratis, Hummels, Subotic, Schmelzer, Pisscheck, Ginter
vs.
Chambers, Mertesacker, Monreal, Gibbs, Koscielny, Debuchy.

Come on, which group of players would you rather have?
"B-but they have had injuries!". Yeah, so have we.

Ben.
11-23-2014, 11:23 AM
albeit one is knocking on a bit and one is always injured but still midfielders who hold their position, amazing stuff.

One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 11:23 AM

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 11:27 AM

One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 11:32 AM
he's somehow built a better defence.

What is your point exactly?

Dortmund's problems are largely temporary and influenced by factors out of Klopp's control.

Wenger's problems are largely of his making and his stubborn insistence on persisting with a style that has been found out by all his rivals and wilfully refusing to strengthen key areas of the team.

Surely with an Awimb handle like 'the splendor of antigone' you'd recognise the idea of tragedy being at the heart of human experience and the irony of Wenger's own personal personal little tragedy being repeated week-in, week-out as repeats the same mistakes endlessly in the vain hope of a different outcome.

Klopp's current problems are passing ones and largely out of his control. Wenger's problems are of his own making and apparently permanent.

gco40203
11-23-2014, 11:37 AM

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 11:37 AM
that appointing him would unquestionably lead to the rectification of the very things that are now missing in the team is ridiculously naive if you've followed Dortmund recently. They suffer from the very same things that we do, and if you're going to blame Wenger for our malady, you certainly can't absolve Klopp from blame.

If you'd said Simeone or someone who actually plays with tactical discipline, teamwork, and huge physical effort, you might have had an argument.

One Wilf Copping
11-23-2014, 11:41 AM

the splendor of antigone
11-23-2014, 11:45 AM
haven't been able to deal with teams that sit deep, kick the **** out of them, and hit Dortmund on the break? Because that is what has happened.

redgunamo
11-23-2014, 01:17 PM