Having owned and completed it on the Xbox I'm now considering getting GTAV on the PS4

[Classic Jorge]

Im a mental, arent I?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Yes. Games are for the kiddies, j.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Berni]

All this prostitute killing and bad dialogue bores me.

[the splendor of antigone]

Now there's all these tasks and superegoic injunctions to kill etc. It's all very enervating. Just let me steal a nice car, pick the right radio station, and go for a nice little drive.

Writing this I realize that it may be related to my waning libido :-(

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Top down view indeed.

[Classic Jorge]

GTAV is a modern work of art, it's a truly beautiful thing

[the splendor of antigone]

[Rich]

PS3 and don't really play them very often.

Is the PS4 sufficiently good enough to warrant me upgrading?

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

If you'll excuse my French.

[Classic Jorge]

In fact, theres probably even more "art" in a game than there is in anything else if you value art on its true merits. Namely to create a visceral, emotive reaction.

[the splendor of antigone]

watch a single episode of a 'Let's Play/game walkthrough' on youtube when the game first came out.

I ended up watching another bloke finish the whole thing :homer: :banghead:

[Berni]

don't want an immersive experience.

[Classic Jorge]

Though, as you'd expect with FIFA, it's more incremental than anything else.

I love it, a really nice bit of kit, and it completes the rest of the Sony living room set.

Mac, Sony, Nintendo. Literally the only brands I would ever consider being 'loyal' to.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

Maybe it's my relationship with it but for me it's more of a tribe

[Snin]

[Classic Jorge]

You can actually play 'game' games in the game

[gooner4life]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Perish the thought of ever actually referring to one's club as such, but they are, especially so at the level which we operate on.

Witness last summer's tour of the Far East.

[Berni]

getting all metatextual on my arse. I have proper art for that. Games are just a mind **** - something you do when you can't be arsed doing anything worthwhile or improving.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

supposedly adult man playing shooty bang bang games.

[Classic Jorge]

Just go and photograph a cage fighter's semi why don't you?

[Classic Jorge]

Have you ever played it?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Do you like hopscotch as well? Those clapping games?

Buckeroo?

[Classic Jorge]

Not to mention how myopic you are

[Berni]

to edify or instruct, merely to amuse.

[Classic Jorge]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

Does that help with illustrating the futility of your argument?

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Do you dress up like the Milky Bar Kid?

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

And, I'd suggest, the same people that damned the works of Bacon, Dali, Wright of Derby, Cezanne, Seurat or many others displayed similarly puritanical and massively parochial attitudes at the time too.

"waaaughhh it doesn't fit my learned rigid constructs. DECRY IT!!"

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

Yes, that's much less arbitrary.

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Or, as you might phrase it, 'I know you are but what am I?'

[Pat Vegas]

I never have time for games too. But I would make time for the new ones.

[Fred Killah]

It's a Jackson Pollock mate. Of course it's f**king art.