So apparently, Nigel Farage wants to privatise the NHS, cut workers' rights and axe BBC comedy.

[Berni]

Which for me raises the sole question: why is he restricting himself to their comedy?

[Classic Jorge]

Don't forget abolishing inheritance tax. Not to mention abolishing the DCMS and Department of Energy and Climate Change,

[Witharby 2-3 weeks]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

It was brought in with the express political intention of breaking the power of the House of Lords. With that achieved, there is no real excuse for it to be levied on virtually every property owner in the country.

[Berni]

The political establishment has been studiously ignoring this country's grass roots antipathy to Europe with such arrogance and for so long that something like UKIP was bound to happen. All it took was someone who didn't look too mad to front it and it was always going to get some traction.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[Herr Floyd - PEGIDA]

Which makes complete sense. He wants an increase in frontline doctors and nurses and the waste removed. The NHS is a shambles. Is that what you want?

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

outstanding and credit card bills... even allowing for 4x death in service (assuming not self employed etc) than I think over 300k is out of the reach for most people

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Surely their bodies should be ground into fertiliser for the turnip fields, comrade?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

There is also the matter of life protection on most mortgages.

[Classic Jorge]

Aren't you a self made man? Surely the enemy of aspiration and the biggest deterrent to going out there and being the best wealth-creator* you can be is to have it all handed to you on a plate.


* :puke:

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[redgunamo]

a good life to your kids on a plate. "Senator Corleone; President Corleone!"

Or?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

No matter what your political persuasion may be, it is simply not cool especially when or if you consider the deceased has paid taxes all their life.

If you are in a lucky enough position when you die to be able to leave certain things to your daughter I am sure your opinion then will be very different to what it is now.

[Classic Jorge]

And anyway, lets not be so naieve about this, we all know that anybody with any serious money has squirrelled it away into a multitude of tax efficient trusts and avoision methods in preparation for their passing.

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

What about a normal old couple who worked hard all their life and have paid off their mortgage, perhaps even have some savings to boot. Their house value would be multiples of what they paid for it at the time and all they want to do is best by their kids and leave it to them. There would be a generation of people in the UK and Ireland to whom that was the most important thing in their later years.


Inheritance tax goes beyond people with ‘serious money’ as you put it.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Classic Jorge]

Then I think it's 40pc of whatever is above and beyond that.

It isn't leaving anybody lucky enough to be in that position in any sort of penury or destitution, is it?

Also, I never claimed it was "serious money", if you read it again I said anybody with serious money would have made alternative avoidance arrangements along with a whole raft of other tax avoidance arrangements. Mostly because that's what rich people do, else they wouldn't be rich.

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

What about your normal London couple, perhaps own a house in an area where they bought 30-40 years ago before the area became cool and the house prices went off the scale. Worked hard, paid their mortgage, salt of the earth London type.

Not filthy rich, just normal hard working people.

Their property which they have maintained at their own cost and paid rates or taxes on throughout their life is above the threshold so why the f**k should they continue to pay further tax on it. The same would apply to many other areas in the UK and not just London, some in Yorkshire even. The taxman forensically goes through everything they own from bank account savings to the pictures on their walls, values them and taxes them.


Money for nothing, happy days. Bit like stamp duty but worse.

Robbing f**kers.

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

here in Cornwall. No, tax the f**kers so they don't come down here buying up our farms*, thank you very much.
Actually, many already are, at least converted farm buildings, pricing out yokels, sorry locals :-(

[Classic Jorge]

It simply won't apply to the majority of people in any meaningful sense.

In fact, if it's a gift to anybody it's a gift to wealth management people

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Berni]

their bundle of cash, I imagine? They can then go off and buy somewhere else with cash left over.

If the locals can't afford to live around there, they will have to cease being locals and f**k off somewhere else. Somewhere they can get decent paying jobs and people to f**k they aren't related to, maybe?

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

no real problem with if it's done aesthetically and tbf it often is. I am just bitter as I got gazumped a couple years back on a lovely old place with a bit of land.
The 'smaller' farms are quite often being bought up by auslanders though as investments and then taken out of production which is a potential problem re employment for the local economy, the life of rural communities etc. The bigger farms just get bigger and bigger...