The Education Secretary Nicky Morgan is getting some stick for saying that students should avoid

[Brentwood]

studying Humanities and the Arts at uni if they want to maximise their chances of getting a job afterwards.

She's correct, isn't she?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/e ducation-secretary-nicky-morgan-tells-teenagers-if-you-want- a-job-drop-humanities-9852316.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/education-secretary-nicky-morgan-tells-teenagers-if-you-want-a-job-drop-humanities-9852316.html)

[Berni]

humanities graduates out there, so it's hardly a fast track to the dole queue to do an arts degree. On the other hand, we do have a massive skills gap in STEM subjects, so she's right to encourage people to follow that path if they can. However, there is f**k all point in people pursuing sciences if they're not much good at them. You can't fit square pegs into round holes just because it makes the government's figures look better.

[Brentwood]

there just won't be enough to realistically go to everyone who graduates, as you say

A cousin of mine moans that he has loads of debt from uni from studying a Hotel Management course. He had hundreds of kids on his course. It was obvious before he started the course that there wouldn't be enough hotels looking for managers for them all to get a relevant job in the field, but he was still surprised at the end of it

[barrybueno]

is what she should have said...

[Berni]

After all, a qualification in hotel management is great if all you ever want to do is manage a hotel, but f**k all use for anything else. On the other hand, an arts degree - whilst sometimes airy-fairy - does allow you to keep your options open to some extent. You can always go on and get vocational training afterwards if there's something you really want to do. However, many such vocational training schemes won't let you in the door without a degree.

[Classic Jorge]

Much cheaper than an actual arts degree and just about as much f**king use

[barrybueno]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Useless, long-haired, layabout scrounging c**ts to a man.

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/6a/6ae280aa7cda3f40b5ac36018916637ef6bcc802c59f7dc48a 3e19e62a6cb315.jpg

[Herr Floyd - PEGIDA]

I'd like to see them sprayed with a permanent dye when they are protesting. Then we can pick them off at leisure. Shooting them would do.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Berni]

and absurd intellectual posturing, why wouldn't you? :shrug:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You wouldn't because these things are wrong. Wasting years of your life titting about at the public expense is wrong.

[Classic Jorge]

...a near useless degree.

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[the splendor of antigone]

revolution is edging ever closer :cloud9:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

In which case they don't have to pay the 'debt', do they?

Never mind, I'll pay for your nancy boy chums to avoid washing, attend demos and GENERALLY WASTE THEIR f**kING TIME.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

What you mean is, you prefer to decide what is right and what it wrong according to what suits you at the time.

[Berni]

thousands of innocent people deliberately and in cold blood. But - in context - it was right.

It's all about context, see?

[Classic Jorge]

The cost is ridiculous for a decent degree so a lot are just going for ones they can barely afford, unless mama and papaaaaah can pay for them of course.

[Brentwood]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

That's just like the decision to bomb Hiroshima. Yes.

[Classic Jorge]

...with a 2:1 in TV and Drama from Llllandudno Polytechnic.

[the splendor of antigone]

[Classic Jorge]

Or, if you're american, moral relativism

[Berni]

application of moral absolutes is both unhelpful and ultimately meaningless.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Repayments begin at a salary of 17k, at which point you repay 1 pound per month. 1 pound.

At 30k you repay 98 pounds per month. Less than 100 pounds per month.

[redgunamo]

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

[the splendor of antigone]

[Berni]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

When you're mad for me to pay to keep unwashed ****ers in Stella and hair gel, the matter seems much simpler.

[Classic Jorge]

Are you saying a person earning just over 9 quid an hour should repay more, even if they are earning what is actually below the london living wage?

I'm not sure that would go a long way to encouraging economic activity, is that what you and your socialist chums want, eh?

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

who then go on to invent stuff that keeps you alive longer or lets you go faster or have endless access to porn or whatever. They in turn then go on to pay for the next generation, etc, etc.

It's a virtuous circle or summink.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

They're going to invent f**k nothing.

[Berni]

surely?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[the splendor of antigone]

Notice that I am being a moral relativist here :-)

[Berni]

It's more alarming when they get alumni on and you realise how ignorant people are. Like with Only Connect last night. People like Professor Steve Jones, Robert Peston and Patrick Marber are supposed to be intelligent, ffs! c**ts couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.

[Berni]

See what I did there? ;-)

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[the splendor of antigone]

*you did it on purpose, I know. I just want you to know that I know that you know.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You recently chucked Churchill at me for no reason whatsoever.

[Classic Jorge]