Europa League. Of the 12 teams from the top 5 leagues that went into it at the group stages

[Ashberto]

in the 12/13 season, only one of them improved their league position in 13/14. Two finished in the same place and 9 did worse. It really is a dreadful tournament. Even if you win it I think you get less money than a single group game in the CL.

[Pat Vegas]

And why don't they use that in the PL. not that I really make a point of watching their games but the lower down camera reminds me of the sort of angle the camera was at Highbury.

Sponsorship reasons I assume.

[the splendor of antigone]