Disappointing news for Hague as he barely even scrapes into the Top 40 People from Yorkshire chart

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/put-wood-in-th-ole#1yg0dbv (http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/put-wood-in-th-ole#1yg0dbv)

He's a lot to thank Merle Baaaah for

http://static7.imagecollect.com/preview/560/1eccba2aef9a8de

[Dorset Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Berni]

Anyway, that list has Sir Geoffrey only at number 3. Ridicules.

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Nor is Paul Heaton.

[Classic Jorge]

This is a man who is as Yorkshire as you can get, he's as Yorkshire as the rest of Yorkshire put together. As this clip, filmed yesterday in Leeds' glamorous Queens Hotel, proves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOlEYNlSZ44

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Pokster]

rather than the back of his hand

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

Heaton is from the other side of the hills isn't he???

[Berni]

And he put a lot of slaves out of work when he did that, don't forget.

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

Imagine how methodical and mercilessly slow that episode of domestic abuse mustve been.

[Berni]

ludicrous and would never have have happened in a proper (ie British) court.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

complete ****e. Now he dresses like The Fonz and talks like an absolute c**t.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Paul Heaton btw is a scouser if we're talking in terms of where a person being born equates to where they were from.

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Marlboro.jpg

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Or the environs of to be precise.

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

is he Indian or English?

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

He chose however to play for England.

[Berni]

Born in Lucknow, of course.

[Classic Jorge]

[Pokster]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Pokster]

[Berni]

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1113 7922/Couple-create-security-guard-Cliff-Richard-doll.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11137922/Couple-create-security-guard-Cliff-Richard-doll.html)

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Born in India = Indian.

Quite simple really.

[Pokster]

born in india with an Indian dad = Indian.... played for England though, what's the big deal

[Pokster]

[Berni]

Pretty everyday weirdeness imo.

[Berni]

No. Can't see anything racist there at all. :hehe:

Oh and btw, we're just ignoring his English mother, are we?

[Pokster]

of his life is being racist??????

[7evens]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0n88tZQc4Q

[Berni]

nationality. And, actually, neither does the nationality of one of your parents. He has spent the vast majority of his life here, been educated here, grown up here, made his adult career here and proudly considers himself English. What more do you want?

There are millions of people in this country with similar stories. They are simply British, but of foreign extraction. Those foreign origins don't make them any less English, though. Equally, there are people who were born here who don't consider themselves English and that's their right as well. Your absurdly narrow definition of what defines someone's nationality marks you out as lacking in imagination at best and racist at worst.

[Pokster]

my 3 boys all from Essex, born there and lived there for a few yrs, doesn't matter how long they now live in yorkshire they will never be tykes... what is the difference??

[Classic Jorge]

You northern types are cruel

[Pokster]

the 3 yr old does now speak with a Northern twang though

[Classic Jorge]

In the long run though, whatever accent they have (apart from Black Country, Belfast or Glasgow) it's better than the awful estuary english

[Snin]

[Berni]

You are aware that there are millions of people in this country who proudly define themselves as British or English who don't meet your criteria, aren't you? My parents don't come from England, either. However, they wouldn't for a minute consider themselves to be anything other than British for all that they cheerfully acknowledge their Irish heritage.

What I'm saying is that questions of nationality and national identity are vastly - VASTLY - more complex than you seem to think. The fact that you choose to exclude people from your nationality on such flimsy grounds is bizarre and slightly worrying, but ultimately meaningless since they get to define their nationality, not you.

Suffice to say I would very much enjoy watching you explain what nationality he is to Nasser Hussein, for instance. :hehe:

Oh, and since you're doing insults, stop being so unbelievably f**king obtuse.

[Snin]

Ian Huntley that is..that will shut her up imo

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

However, he was born in Madras (as was) to an Indian father and English mother, came here when he was eight and went on to captain England.

This life history has brought Pokster to the bizarre conclusion that he is Indian, which I suspect would come as news to Mr Hussein.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Works for Sky.

[Classic Jorge]

I was thinking he was some sort of inexplicably culturally relevant pakistani politician and AWIMB was suddenly a hotbed of geopolitical debate.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Everything else is utterly irrelevant.

[Berni]

basically.

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I'm not sure that's the only requirement, mind.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Well??

[Pokster]

[Classic Jorge]

How do you know about this Nasser bloke, SW? You don't like cricket, do you?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

So I was never really famailiar with Hussein the player, though I was aware when he was captain of England when he was.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

f**k him.

[Berni]

The fact is I don't believe you would question his nationality for a second if he were white, had an English sounding name and spoke with the same accent that Hussein does. So I can only conclude that it must be the fact that he's called Nasser Hussein and looks the way he does that makes the difference.

[Pokster]

you are talking crap, but if it makes you feel better then carry on

[Berni]

Frankly, if you can't see how narrow, small-minded, outmoded, parochial and just plain thick your views on this matter are, I pity you.

[Pokster]

so I think that you are being narrow minded by accusing someone of being racist because they don't have the same thoughts as you, it shopws what an arrogant prick you can be sometimes

[Berni]

There are umpteen guys who've played for England whose true national identity or allegiances could legitimately be questioned, but Hussein isn't one of them. Neither I nor anyone who has ever played with him, worked with him or known him has as far as I know ever suggested he is anything other than completely English.

But, rather than choose one of the white guys with Australian, South African or New Zealand accents, you went for him. That tells me all I needed to know.

[Pokster]

so stop assuming what people mean from what they type when there is no evidence at all and grow up

[Berni]

And on the basis of those assumptions choose to call me names. So why does it work one way for you and one way for me? Hmmmm?

[Ashberto]