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Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 09:10 AM
Dortmund have players that on an individual level manage to combine three things, imo:

Football technique, speed and stamina. The last part you can obtain by two means:

Heart capacity training or drugs. Let's for one moment assume they go for the first option. What is involved in heart capacity traning? Well, it's pretty much the same as cyclists do, interval training, innit? It's the easiest thing to train, all you need to do to experience a massive improvement is to run 4 times 1 km, twice a week. At a decent speed so you train your heart capacity. There's a kid in my son's track and field club who is a very capable 1500 and 800 m runner, he's 13 years old and also plays for our local elite club's boys 13 football team. His personal best are 4.25 and 2.11 respectively on these two distances. I seriously doubt that any senior players on this elite club's A-team can run faster than that on these two distances.

To me it's not logical to use drugs when it's that easy to improve the stamina. I mean, the Dortmund players, it's not like they would perform on any level in track and field is it, it's just that they're a bit more fit than the rest of the footie players.

And what I don't understand then, is, why don't more clubs prioritise typical middle distance training - not instead of but in addition to the football technique training?

Luis Anaconda
09-18-2014, 09:15 AM
Bet its horrible

'Neg
09-18-2014, 09:21 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 09:22 AM
Just got maself a house, on the beach, with a pool. :thumbup:

Spring here now, managed to time it pretty well such that I arrived when the tmeperature curves in Norway and Oz crossed eachother. :-)

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 09:26 AM
lazy sportsmen, who if not properly herded, have no hesitation to have a fag and a pint every now and then.

Did you see what happened when Tiki-taka Spain failed to keep their stamina up, in the last World Cup? Players getting a leeetle bit old and a leeetle bit lazy? You can't play tiki-taka if you don't move your feet, Barcelona stylee, for 90 minutes.

'Neg
09-18-2014, 09:28 AM

Luis Anaconda
09-18-2014, 09:33 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 09:34 AM
They were complacent, and a bit satisfied, not hungry enough. Maybe a bit more five a side on the traning ground and a bit less stamina training. I just find it weird that most top football players would struggle to beat a 15 year old girl on 800 m, when the sport these days clearly favours those with stamina.

What do you reckon, that Spain's drug suppy suddenly stopped?

Billy Goat Sverige
09-18-2014, 09:36 AM

Mack
09-18-2014, 09:55 AM
oh :-(

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:02 AM

redgunamo
09-18-2014, 10:03 AM
Essentially, you become a middle-distance runner because you can't play football.

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:03 AM
We'd be having a pint as we speak!

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:06 AM
who also were massively good at football, but chose the running.

Mack
09-18-2014, 10:08 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:11 AM

Rich
09-18-2014, 10:13 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
09-18-2014, 10:13 AM
I read yesterday that they covered 11k more than our players in the game, so an average of 1.1k per outfield player.

Hardly earth shattering distances, though a quick 1.1k run for me would no doubt force me to be mouth sick.

Fitness, stamina, mental attitude or whatever. Not drugs.

Mack
09-18-2014, 10:25 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:28 AM

redgunamo
09-18-2014, 10:29 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:30 AM
I'd say he made the right choice. Rod Stewart too. :-)

Mack
09-18-2014, 10:30 AM

Guns 'n' Roses
09-18-2014, 10:32 AM

redgunamo
09-18-2014, 10:38 AM

Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler
09-18-2014, 10:38 AM
You being Johnny Foreigner and all that.

redgunamo
09-18-2014, 10:43 AM