Hold on, hold on. About 6 years ago some genius made up a new position on the football pitch.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

The so-called 'defensive midfielder'. In years and years of watching and playing the game I had never heard of a 'defensive midfielder'. The point of midfielders is that they support the attack and they support the defence.

I spit on your 'DM'. It's another of those carbuncles defacing the modern game, like 'assists' and 'Robbie Savage'.

[The Tony]

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[Pokster]

[Dutch Gooner]

Beckenbauer and Baresi were great examples of these....

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Dorset Gooner]

[Classic Jorge]

Liberos, trequartistas, returnistas, registas. It's where it's at, C.

Though I think you and SOFC probably agree on this, the game's moved on.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

He scored a decent amount of goals from open play, actually, many of which were from late runs into the box.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Or an 'assist', for that matter. Unless you are an appalling septic type.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Luis Anaconda]

but things do change, sir c. I read in one sneering piece about our transfer policy this week the "criticism" that we have signed the joint fewest players of any Premiership team this summer. Apparently having a stable squad and adding judiciously to it is no longer a thing to be desired, you need to get in 8 or 9 players every summer to be in with the cool kids

[redgunamo]

[Pokster]

to our other midfield players, hence DM.... Ozil shows why he is classed as an attacking midfielder.

Sir C is living in the dark ages and is still trying to come to terms with cesc the traitor

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

****ing on about Dukla Prague and Jeff Astle. Turned the game into a way for art student-type ****ers to appear bang on trend.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

promoting ridiculous football jargon.

[Luis Anaconda]

attacking midfielder is a whole different ball game - more akin to the difference between a wide man and a winger

[Mack]

http://m.worldsoccertalk.com/worldsoccertalk/#!/entry/defend ing-the-defensive-midfielder,521cc840da27f5d9d012563e (http://m.worldsoccertalk.com/worldsoccertalk/#!/entry/defending-the-defensive-midfielder,521cc840da27f5d9d012563e)

Can't find the direct link but I distinctly remember him making the point that night. Oh and Liam Brady kind of agreed :-)

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

I must be wrong then :-(

[Berni]

his insane ramblings make some sort of sense.

[Classic Jorge]

[PSRB]

A Makele type

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[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2013/04/508709.jpg

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/27/rotherham-children-abuse-labour-calls-crime-commissioner-resign

[Mack]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

This may well get nasty.

[Monty91]

[Ashberto]

can you guess which one it is?

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

You know the sort.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

Seems to me like it's a 50/50 ball at best. http://www.awimb.com/images/smiley_icons/ohwell.gif

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

Not that I'm casting aspersions, I'd imagine it was the advanced manufacturing and research park.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Luis Anaconda]

Imagine a worserer Wales than the actual Wales

[Berni]

Rotherham. Very confusing. Didn't hang around long enough to commit any sex offences, though.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

Though we managed to play a crucial role in getting companies like Rolls Royce, Siemens and Boeing in there.

Sheffield's just a spit over the other side of the M1.

[Berni]

Boeing in any way, oddly enough. Even though I didn't ask.

[redgunamo]

[redgunamo]

The whole bloody team is there to support the striker :shrug: