Corporation Tax is a strange one. Rather than strip the company bare, Ieaving excess profits

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

in the bank to assist when times aren't so good is penalised with a tax bill.

Wouldn't it make sense to reward fiscal prudence and encourage business to hold a bank of cash?

[Mc Gooner]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Why shouldn't I remove your wallet from your pocket and take your money?

[the splendor of antigone]

[7evens]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[the splendor of antigone]

Off with your head imo

[Classic Jorge]

Thus threatening the very fabric of capitalism.

I'm for that

[Ears are alight]

I think you'd fit right in.

[Hillary]

The most tax effective way to remove cash from the business is to take it as dividends AFTER it has already been subjected to corp tax.

[Snin]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

But the profit is taxed if I choose to be prudent and leave it within; eventually, should I choose to remove it, it will be taxed again. :shrug:

By the way, if you think that dividends are the most efficient way of extracting money, I can let you have the details of some competent accountants :thumbup:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Mc Gooner]

[Mc Gooner]

[Mc Gooner]

but tax $ is ok :hehe:

[Hillary]

Well it does depend on whether you have offshore entities or other tax avoiding nonsense, but for the run of the mill company owner the choice is between PAYE or Corporation Tax.

[Snin]

you disappoint me :hehe:

[Alexism - Atheoist]

When corporations and executives faced higher tax rates, there was less incentive to reward executives with massive pay raises and less incentive to hoard money, thereby increasing 1) salaries on down the line and b) investment into the future.

Now, with ridiclously low rates (tm Fabregasm) executives are using corporate csh to give themselves bonuses and repurchase stock, which increases the value of the stock options the control, neither of which improves the company's prospects for the future.

:wave:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Nope, not here.

[Chief Arrowhead]

Corporate tax rates higher than individual rates allow for a greater expansion of salaries for corporate execs since salaries are an expense, thus a reduction in the company's tax obligation. A lower corporate tax rate is an incentive for the company to retain capital for future growth.

Dividends are not an expense, so they are taxed at both the corporate and individual level. an efficient strategy for a public company is to buy back their own stock, thus reducing float and enhancing the stock price, of which appreciation is only taxed at the discretion of the owner.

Fabregasm has it the exact opposite, as usual.

High corporate tax rates in our country are forcing multinationals to do the logical thing and shift capital to low tax countries, thus reducing cap ex and expansion in this country. That capital will be taxed if it is repatriated, so it won't ever come back here unless these progressives are defeated at the ballot box and pro-growth tax policies can be installed. Then our misery could come to an end.

[Alexism - Atheoist]

[Chief Arrowhead]

[Alexism - Atheoist]

I don't know why I even bother. Heck, you think you know more about climate science than climate scientists, so we know facts don't matter to you. So go try to convince a kindergartner...you MAY beat him in a debate. I'm done wasting my time on you. So every time you say something, take it as read that I bitch slapped you with facts that utterly disprove you, as I am doing now.

Here's a good review article: http://www.cfr.org/united-states/us-corporate-tax-reform/p27 860 (http://www.cfr.org/united-states/us-corporate-tax-reform/p27860)
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[Alexism - Atheoist]

Photoshopped to take a couple hundred pounds away ofc - you're welcome.
Adios Moran. Good luck versus the pre-schooler.

:wave:
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[Chief Arrowhead]

didn't take.

Nice graphs. corporate tax rate is 35%.

[Chief Arrowhead]

no corporation with a tax department will allow 35% in taxes. Hence the expense game I denoted. Part of that is to reward execs with outsized salaries. That is a deduction from the corporate income statement.

When corporate tax rates were even higher, that was the era of the expense account, the company car, the boondoggle trips, etc. Why? Because they could all be expensed.

You are such a naive little man.

[Chief Arrowhead]

as I said earlier.

You are very naive and a slave to your progressive ideology. Get into the real world, homeboy.