PSG and City apparently both guilty of flouting FFP and look likely to get a transfer embargo

[PSRB]

or huge fine :rolleyes:

Surely, they have to be banned?

[Brentwood]

[PSRB]

tim payton �@timpayton 9m

@Matt_Law_DT Funny how FFP says nothing about controlling ticket prices or rampant commercialsm by big established clubs! #Cartel

and don't get me started on this!!! and this man supposedly is the mouthpiece of the fans :rolleyes:

[Rich]

were open to much more interpretation.

FFP rules are very much black and white. There is no ambiguity and the relevant disciplinary procedures will be followed - starting off light for a first offence and getting progressively more severe up to and including a ban from the Champions League/transfer bans.

[Brentwood]

We set ticket prices at the correct level to ensure we sell the seats. If they were too high then people wouldn't buy them.

[Brentwood]

[Rich]

It is very, very clear if you take the time to read them.

[The Tony]

We can rule England like Celtic in Scotland :cloud9:

[Brentwood]

by a professor at the University of Oxford

http://www.soccernomics-agency.com/?p=469


Or another example would be that if Leicester City are allowed to use merchandise sales from their shop in Bangkok airport, in the same way that we use the sales from our shop in London, then why can't Sheik Mansour rebrand an already successful golf course or hotel in Abu Dhabi to become the David Silva course, and be allowed to also use that money?




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Third party ownership is not covered in FFP and this could lead to a rise in clubs only owning a portion of a player’s rights. This would keep the club’s initial costs low but force the club to share the future proceeds from the player’s sale with the third party. The final concern is that some of the larger clubs are investing their excess capital in non-soccer related investments, like housing projects or a Real Madrid resort in the Middle East. How does the return on this investment play into Financial Fair Play? Will the bigger clubs be allowed to count their return as revenue and thus have larger budgets to invest in the team? It is going to be a full time job to make sure that FFP creates an equal playing field from top to bottom, or if it is simply a guise of equality.

There are loopholes in UEFA’s criteria. In article 58-1 “finance income� is considered relevant. That is a very vague term. What is stopping a club from gambling on risky and complex financial instruments in an attempt to side step the regulations by classifying the gambles as “financial income� to get ahead? Or, in another instance, to lend money to a wealthy owner’s parent company at an interest rate that is above the market rate?

Similarly in Article 58-2 “expenditure’s on community development activities� are not considered relevant expenses. If Arsenal redevelops the area around their new Emirates Stadium, they are developing the community and reinvesting in it, but this redevelopment will surely bring a profit from the increased property values

The biggest problem with the Article 58-1-2 is the term “non-football operations.� Real Madrid is building a resort in the UAE with its brand name attached. Since the resort is using the Real Madrid brand, does that make it a football operation? If the team plays preseason exhibition games there does that make it a football operation? Others agree with this sentiment, “If a company says ‘We’re genuinely trying to build a global brand, this is a global club and we think this is what this deal is worth,’ it becomes quite difficult for UEFA,� said Daniel Hall, a partner at global law firm Eversheds. “It’s something that is very much open to subjective opinion and that is where there may be legal disputes.�[18] Where is the clarity?

[Pat Vegas]

with just a league cup.

could be a strange year.
Liverpool Champions
Arsenal Fa cup champions
City League cup champions.
Chelsea possibly no trophies at all. Or :-( Champions league winners again.

And United nowhere to be seen.

[Rich]

Only a club’s outgoings in transfers and employee benefits (including wages) will be counted over income from gate receipts, TV revenue, advertising, merchandising, sales of players and prize money is included in the assessment.

You seem to suggest that a club could make a huge amount of money by buying/building a profitable golf course etc... Well how do you think you can do that? Do you not think it costs a lot of money? Otherwise everyone would be doing it, right?

If they bought a golf course for say, £300million, they will breach FFP regulations and face penalties.

Trust me, these regulations will have a significant impact. Surely you're already starting to see it??!

[Brentwood]

What if Man City UAE builds it and it is then transferred to Man City UK for peanuts/free? What happens then? A lengthy court case in the UAE to investigate the finer details?

My prediction is that FFP will allow the bigger clubs with expensive accountants and lawyers to exploit the thousands of loopholes (Man City selling Vieira's consultancy services to their NY franchise is still being disputed) which the smaller clubs won't be able to do