One miniscule crumb of comfort to be found in the debris of all these away massacres

[Ashberto]

is that we didn't lose, or look second-best overall against any of them at home.

So apart from the implication that our players (even the ones left after the ravages of injury) are perhaps not too bad, it also suggests that the much-derided home support is perhaps not, overall, badly damaging the team. Yes, we have some grumblies and some complete cùnts, as do all clubs, but apart from Swansea I can't think of another home game where we have been as awful as we have been many times on the road.

Not that this will be noted or given credit for by the grumblies and complete cùnts who like to reflexively and lazily slag off all of our home support at every single opportunity.

[Maravilloso Marvo]

I've never said our home fans are detrimental to the performance of our players. But they certainly ARE detrimental to the enjoyment of my afternoon out.

[Monty91]

in all of the frequent quotes from players and coach about needing to get the fans on our side and how it much easier to play when the fans are behind you.

That a club should need its *fans* to "get on their side" would be hilarious if it wasn't so utterly outrageous.

[Ashberto]

West Ham fans boo victories. Sunderland fans don't even turn up for cup games etc.

[Maravilloso Marvo]

I had a Spanish class to go to instead.

[Ashberto]

This place has massive problems with basic comprehension at times.

Anyway, I wasn't thinking about you and Rich having your afternoon spoiled by people singing to support their team, I was obviously goading Monty and Jorge and others of their ilk.

[Ashberto]

[Monty91]

In fact, it makes it more so. If it were just Arsenal fans who were human filth it could be written off as some kind of demographic anomaly.

[Classic Jorge]

And anyway, I wouldnt be see dead at the ****ty shopping mall of a stadium

[Maravilloso Marvo]

Sorry, but if you were looking for a board where every comment was taken seriously then maybe Awimb is the wrong place for you.

[Ashberto]

[Ashberto]

For example, I know that you are not seriously suggesting that my logic or simple integer arithmetic is in any way flawed.

What I am suggesting is that the flagellation of the home support and the stadium is for some, a kind of replacement therapy for the flagellation of the manager that others adopt to express their frustration.

[Classic Jorge]

Yes yes, I know taking things back to standing on crumbling terraces which smelt of farts, hotdog onions and moroccan soap bar is pretty much impossible but I simply dont like the modern fan, I dont like their entitlement, their grasping and griping.

I dont really want to be a part of the whole modern experience

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Classic Jorge]

I've been to a few non-league games, I've been to Bradford, York and even Leeds.

It's not the same, nothing's ever the same as nostalgia

[redgunamo]

[Ashberto]

I blame twitter. :nod:

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[Ashberto]

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Classic Jorge]

Crucially, I do that without the question mark, which in no way looks silly or weird

[Classic Jorge]

You big four stringed remedial guitar player, you

[Classic Jorge]

Not sure I'm comfortable with the flatus element but I'll give it a go

[redgunamo]

[Ashberto]

I expect there were those in the 30's who hated the new, gentrified Arsenal, with it's middle-class spectators in very expensive new stands explicitly aimed at the wealthier and casual supporter, and pined for the good old days in the crumbling Spion Kop in Plumstead with proper manual working class fans....

Oh.

[Ears are alight]

[Classic Jorge]

[dismalswamp]

[Ears are alight]

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Camp Freddie]

[Ears are alight]

[Camp Freddie]

[redgunamo]

foreign managers playing fancy foreign football and insisting on playing in fancy foreign places every season.

Or are you being ironic again?