Pep moaned about anti football english teams last night

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while he right that english teams often ( bar us) resort to parking the bus against best teams in europe to win it

2005 and 2012 show it..

but he has to improve as manager in terms of having plam b and stop playing players out of postion. for me he too obbesed with tika take and not with doing enough with the ball.

that why he lost to jose inter in 2010 and chelsea in 2012 because he had no plan b

also got rattled by guardian jamie jackson last night in post match press conference
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/02/manhcester-united -bayern-pep-guardiola-journalist_n_5074818.html?1396430903&a mp;ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067 (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/02/manhcester-united-bayern-pep-guardiola-journalist_n_5074818.html?1396430903&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067)

[Curly]

was because they didn't play terribly well.It can happen to really really good teams and have nothing to do with tactics and a-such.

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its hard to break english teams down

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26850247

but for me they not been conivicing in europe bar city away game in september. pep style to easy to read by the big teams

[Classic Jorge]

Also that it's "boring" to watch or predictable :hehe:

[Luis Anaconda]

BOSH - have some of that. You know nothing Pope j

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end product to it and without messi would barcelona of had that under pep

spain are very dull as despite keeping the ball, they often win 1-0 as they create very few chances. quite boring to watch team keep the ball in day without doing something with it

of course it even more boring to then watch teams go anti football but parking ten defenders in their own box

pep to me has made bayern to tika taka. no harm with keeping the ball but they did that well enough last year but difference was jupp looked to get the ball forward as quickly as possible.

its why i perfer style klopp dortmund play and real madrid play. trying to get ball forward as quickly as possible

[Classic Jorge]

As far as I can see his record is fantastic, I mean he regularly wiped the floor with Mourinho - who everyone seems to think is a tactical genius - when he played Madrid, and as far as "big" teams go you dont get much bigger.

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that nothing wrong with directness at times and bayern goal last night did not come from pep boring tika take but from direct cross out wide into their striker who headed to for bastian to score

pep just can,t find that balance in europe. frustrating as it stop him from being the very very very best.

[Classic Jorge]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Which also included the best player ever (according to many people).

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league semi final vs inter. its true his record was good but having messi and inesita still helped

look he great manager and domestically he keep on winning leagues as that style will win him leagues year in, year out

but as was shown in 2009 semi final vs chelsea, semi final vs chelsea in 2012 and inter in 2010 and now united this year, the style of tika taka needs a end product in european matches as anti football teams over two match can park the ball and then launch counter attacks over the top with pace

he needs to adapt more his managerment. to be fair once he gets a top striker and younger wingers to replace robben and ribbery then the style he introducing to bayern with good ball control and then quick players to open teams up might work.

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team in inter 2010, let real win league in 2012 and lost to very average chelsea team in 2012 and nearly threw it away vs hinddink chelsea in 2009.

also that best side every needed dodgy sending off to knock out in 2011 with robin van persie

[Classic Jorge]

Run a team around for 30 mins, starve them of the ball, make them chase shadows and then, boff, put them to the sword. This is surely the most efficient way, providing you have the technical ability to actually do it, of killing a game off.

What people miss with the short passing game is the rhythm of the ball and the movement off it. It's complex, intricate and cerebral which is exactly why your POMO/Charles Reep school of footballers despise it. They admire a corinthian battle brimming with masculinity, blood and thunder and plenty of 50/50s.

[Classic Jorge]

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can still have rytham with running of the ball and forward thinking movement.

he got balance far more in 2009 when he henry, eto and messi pushing forward at end of barca tika take moves

but tika take can of work keeping the ball all day but you score less goals if you don,t then try to do something with it when your tiring teams more.

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he won all those trophies but he had better balance of good ball rention but players like ya ya toure, messi, eto and henry who all looked to get the ball forward

[Classic Jorge]

Obviously it's better to be able to vary an approach but to say bayern cant or wont is just plain wrong.

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won the league but i just say i think for pep to make his teams perfect they need a top striker and bit more forward thinking movement at end of that ball rention

he a great manager but i sam just saying reason barca did not win the four european cups in row they should of done it is pep was not ready for the negative tactics the top english teams and inter presented him

i just think he can make this bayern team one of true greats if he makes sure he adds that forwardt thinking pace in way he had in 2009

to be fair once they get striker from dortmund and young winger in mould of messi then they be more complete team.

[Classic Jorge]

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up front to get behind players and a attacking forward player with pace like a suazez and younger winger with pace to replace a robben.