At the risk of sounding snobbish, do people really go to all the trouble of making a roast dinner

[Berni]

only to then balls the whole thing up by making gravy from powdered spine, salt, MSG and flour (also known as gravy granules)?

Why? Gravy is a piece of p*ss. There's simply no excuse for it. This isn't 1941, ffs!

[Classic Jorge]

[Rich]

Depending on the meat in question, of course.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Aunt Bessies when i was peckish.

[Berni]

[Curly]

They taste of exactly nothing,bgm

[Ashberto]

their lives that they have to constantly engage snobby spastic mode to sneer at them on the internet?

Apparently they do :shrug:

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Easy option sometimes is the best option, for them.

[Berni]

Also, pre-peeled and sliced vegetables should be outlawed. And as for store-bought mash - JESUS WEPT!

[Maravilloso Marvo]

[Berni]

Much.

[Curly]

by ready salted I believe they wave them in the vicinity of one grain of salt imo

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Or 'common English'.

[Classic Jorge]

[Brentwood]

[Berni]

Gravy granule gravy is not nice, sw. It's not nice at all. :-(

[Classic Jorge]

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

on a diet of salt, sugar and fat in microwave meals, is it?

Decent people cook proper food, j.

[Berni]

Frankly they can poke it. I've got working kidneys, my blood pressure's fine and I'm as fit as a flea. And salt is well tasty. I actually got some MSG powder from the chinee supermarket as well. Sprinkling that on stuff is ace.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Curly]

[Berni]

through the post to you, I'm sure.

[Classic Jorge]

Of course, there's also the small matter of these time saving luxury wonderfoods actually costing more than the thing it's a facsimile of, which if anything would point to the truly poor being less likely to afford it.

As usual with this country, it's education which is the root of the problem. With the amount of big fast food businesses contributing to the DoH's nutritional education strategy for so long is it any wonder we're encouraged to eat in such a way?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

At it's most basic level you are putting a number of different things into an oven for a defined period of time and taking them back out.

If you're organised then it can be quite straight forward.

You can 'complicate' it if you so wish by adding extra factors to the meal but sometimes a person may just want the least complicated option available to them. Bisto granules or bisto powder or whatever may represent that for a person.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Pokster]

[Berni]

I was coerced into eating a Sunday roast at a pub not long ago. Everything was grey and wet and joyless. And yet my dining companions seemed not to mind, wolfing it all down. I wanted to weep for the poor animal that had been disrespected in this way.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Riiiiight.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Cooking for the masses, a tricky business as one person's taste is very different from anothers.

Would never eat a roast dinner in a pub.

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

As soon as you know the cheapest/easiest way of doing something you'll do that, wont you? If people aren't doing that then there is a problem.

Seems like a pretty sensible social intervention to me. It'll save more money than it costs if it's done well.

[Berni]

Did have a nice Sunday lunch in a sort of pub (well, converted bowls club full of hipsters :- ) in Balham a while back.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Believe me hispters were thin on the ground at the time.

It was truly horrible work with a hangover.

[Peeler]

:bow:

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

Will they be going to special camps for this re-education?

[redgunamo]

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

You agreed with the problem and you've proposed a solution. If you dont think doing something about it is an option then you've automatically made yourself part of the problem.

[Free SL]

f**k me this country is full of thick c**ts

[Berni]

Aunt Bessie, perhaps? Or the CEO of Bisto?

[Classic Jorge]

Judging by people's dietary habits it's hard to deny that they need to be taught something.

A daytime tv show cooking simple food, on a budget, from scratch would go a fairly long way to sorting it out, one would've thought.

[Classic Jorge]

[Free SL]

Ready Steady Cook, where people turn up with ingredients that cost a fiver and chefs show them what can be achieved.........

[Ashberto]

Let people eat ready meals. Let people smoke. Let people drink. Foodieism is actually one of the most unpalatable of the large collection of ways middle-class people come up with to feel smug about themselves, and superior to others.

bunch of fcuking cnuts to a man
etc

[Classic Jorge]

I'm thinking the c**ts are the problem with that show.

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

They've been brought up with sweet, salty, fat- and carb-laden processed crap for so long they won't touch anything else. People like watching telly programmes on cooking, but evidence suggests it doesn't actually change how they cook much.

Home economics lessons would be a start, though.

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Berni]

Whatever else foodie-ism is, it's not unpalatable.

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

It therefore makes more sense to try and teach them not to render themselves utterly useless. Same way you teach them to read at a basic level to stop them getting caught in the factory's machinery.

The problem only arises when you over-educate them or give them - shudder - expectations.

[Ashberto]

[Ashberto]

Is your idea of liberty the freedom to be educated into making the 'correct' meal choices in the same way as having the 'freedom' to vote over and over again on the EU until we vote in favour of it?

I don't even believe the scare stories about these so-called working-class food choices anyway. Load of *******s if you ask me. I eat a quite a few ready meals, Jack, :slapschest: and there's not a lot wrong with me. [/Captain Mandrake Mode]

[Classic Jorge]

Libertarianism is all well and good but there's no liberty without informed choice.

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

[Ashberto]

our packets of rolling tobacco?

None at all. And we're intelligent, informed, and educated middle-class people (whether we always like to think of ourselves like that or not).

[redgunamo]

It's the little Mussolini inside every leftie coming through. You know, the one that is convinced it knows what's best for these people better than these people themselves do.

Bunch of f**king c**ts to a man, as one might say.

[Curly]

Alphabetty Spaghetty
Education and food in one imo

[redgunamo]

[Classic Jorge]

I mean, even if we get past the hypocricy of the government that has just charged you over 70% of the price in tax, it's still not the right tone.

[Kev the Gooner]