Talk of Utd having £200m to spend has to be *******s, shirley? Granted they make a lot but

[Billy Goat Sverige]

a lot of that services debt and pays Rooney's contract etc....Where the f**k are they going to get £200m from?

[Monty91]

into a rethink about what to do after Wenger.

[Classic Jorge]

Succession talk seems to have tailed off though, there were all sorts of rumours about Dragan Stoijkovic a while back but nothing for a long time now.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Brentwood]

that Man Utd changed their manager in stable circumstances, after walking the league, gave him 30m plus a 15m youngster (Zaha), then another 30m+ to spend on Chelsea's best player, appointed an extremely experienced PL manager, and the result has been a rapid decline in results, disharmony in the team etc

Yet some are absolutely desperate for us to do the same

[Monty91]

substantial risk that we experience several years of stagnation once he leaves.

Anti-intellectuals like steve williams will snigger, but the biggest risk is probably a kind of identity crisis enveloping the club.

[Monty91]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Or increase in debt.

I don't see that they have much choice but to spend and 3-4-5 or whatever players they need won't come cheap.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Presumably they have a plan post-Wenger which they see as viable and will simply see it through.

Not sure how Moyes would impact on this at all.

[Monty91]

[Monty91]

[Maravilloso Marvo]

:-|

[Classic Jorge]

The encouraging part is that Wenger isnt sralxfrgsn so wont deliberately appoint his own, hugely inferior, successor with the express purpose of making him look better.

Although Arsene will probably hang around like Banquo's ghost

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I accept 3-4-5 doesn't either.

[Luis Anaconda]

utter total *******s like this

[Classic Jorge]

Hugely talented fellow, inexplicably not fancied by Moyes

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I have still never really worked out why Mourinho did not end up there.

[Luis Anaconda]

and has very little end product should said trick actually get him into space. Still probably better than Walcott though

[Ashberto]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

If by anti-intellectual you mean the polar opposite of you and your little group of reacharounds on here then I am delighted.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Monty91]

years, i.e. not Mourinho

[Classic Jorge]

Thanks for stealing the potential theo joke there, LA

[Monty91]

[Brentwood]

[Rich]

that they want.

[Classic Jorge]

http://i.imgur.com/IwK5sDa.gif

[Billy Goat Sverige]

approach and go for someone who has had success previously. That's not to say you can't get a very good manager appointing someone like Rodgers, but i think it's a safer bet if you went for one of the big names.

A similar situation to signing players, sort of.

[Luis Anaconda]

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

They appointed a manager who has a track record of winning f**k all.
Chelsea appointed Benitez and trousered a cup, they appointed DiMatteo and did what we have never done.
Just cos Utd and Moyes have got of to a rocky start means less than didlyf**kall re Wengers eventual replacement.

Jesus there's some thick c**t on here today

[Monty91]

the football landscape will probably have changed significantly (FFP, euro super league?) and we may be in a better position to judge how best to move forward in a post-Wenger world.

[Classic Jorge]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

over or has a heart attack/stroke.

['Neg]

[Brentwood]

Like Villas Boas, Santini, Scolari, or Juande Ramos

Guys that have won things in big leagues

[Supermac1976]

[Monty91]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

'Yet some are absolutely desperate for us to do the same'

therefore is clearly bollox when there are other options available.

To postulate that the Wenger Out brigade are desperate to follow Utds example as if that is the only way is the vapid mutterings of a flaccid **** eater.
All the Wenger out brigade want is
Ambition to win something
Spend the money on winning something instead of Diaby's medical expenses
and Win something.

Fortunately it would seem that Wenger has been persuaded to do some of the above and may actually achieve it, which is nice for everybody.

The WO's get the success they desperately want for the club
and the AKBs get more Wenger.

[Monty91]

[Berni]

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

or you don't

they got it right with wenger

whats your beef

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

bit buggy eyed but been good for us, directly and just by being signed.
reckon hes been the difference to being involved at the top and looking up as in previous years.
Seems to be missing the runs from midfield that rambo & theo give us

[Classic Jorge]

"Spend the money on winning something instead of Diaby's medical expenses
and Win something." :hehe:

Parody account?

[Brentwood]

and we'll end up like Spurs over the past 17 years. I put the wellbeing of the club I support ahead of my short term insatiable appetite for instant gratification

Although, given their Carling Cup victory, you'd no doubt trade places with them in an instant

[Monty91]

What are your thoughts on Ozil? :-)

[redgunamo]

[redgunamo]

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

how far down the rabbit hole do we go?

If he was an unknown and free is it really likely he'd be as good as he is? prob not.

If I'm doing a direct comparison but only changing the fee paid and player profile Id be pretending he would still have had the direct impact he did have but not created the buzz around the team he did.
Prob a drop off of 6ish points.
I'd still be thinking hes good

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

Our club have NEVER listened to the fans

[Brentwood]

If they did, we'd have Scott Dann and Roger Johnson playing for us now

[Ashberto]

but that is essentially worthless, and most of the managers to have won it in the last few years have been sacked soon after.

We don't really know whether the club had much spare money or not. What we do know is that it never had the limitless funds of most of our rivals to keep on buying players, and then buying more players if the first lot didn't work.

Even being consistently top 4 in this time is good, which is why AW's supporters, er, support him.

Until the Wenger Out faction can show some understanding of this without just shouting "No trophies!" I can't really credit them with being reasonable about the discussion.

[redgunamo]

manager is. At least for a while.

Rather like Real Madrid, Chelsea, Meelan etc.

[Brentwood]

as it means they have to refer to Chelsea or City, seeing as they are the only two clubs whose managers who have achieved what Wenger and Fergie have managed to do

[redgunamo]

even one meaningless League Cup?

[Ashberto]

So Arsene doesn't always know best, and he's not perfect, but very few people (only two or three on here, for example) really think that.

I wouldn't mind knowing what haul of Silverwear our friend RC here would have deemed sufficient not to have sacked the manager.

[redgunamo]

is solely dependent on money :-)

[Monty91]

[redgunamo]

Blueprints for making money from football though, abound :-)

[redgunamo]

glwtp imo.

[Brentwood]

our fans are crying out for. Either spending more money than they have, appointing numerous managers, sticking with the same manager, appointing young English managers, experienced PL managers, succesful foreign managers...not one strategy has worked, aside from spending 500m+, has it?

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

All Ive ever been after is a commitment to try and win something.
To hear AW talk of the FA cup, (A trophy I still consider worthy of winning) as a bauble, to not even try and win the league just cos some big boys are playing and he thinks we can't compete (even tho we did exactly that in the late 90s)cos we're having the decorators in really f**ked me off.
To talk of fourth place as a trophy is frankly sackable in itself
and that total lack of ambition for footballing success fed itself down to the playing staff. We then went season after season after season with our best players leaving to pursue dreams of wealth and trophies elsewhere.
Last year we sold the title to those c**ts oop north when a mere bridging loan for a year and a modicom of ambition would have easily kept RvP with us.

For the last 6 or so years we entered 4 competitions with no real ambition to compete in any of them and that aint the Arsenal I grew up supporting. That was my beef with the Gallosocialistsurrendermonkey, that and 3 years of Almunia

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

[Monty91]

than we did last season in our defeats to Blackburn and Bradford.

How does this tally with your theory that Wenger is trying to win the cup this year but wasn't previously?

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

:shrug: you figure it out you'll be a rich f**ker......

[redgunamo]

Certainly not until after the fact anyway.

[Monty91]

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[redgunamo]