Terrible seens in somerset ofcourse but the outpouring of rage at old Smithy, as if he's somehow

[7evens]

responsible for all this rain and devastation on a personal level reminds me of irrate tourists who stamp their feet and demand refunds from tour operators because the sun hid behind the clouds for half their stay.


Conservative Mr Liddell-Grainger, who represents Bridgwater and West Somerset, said of Lord Smith's visit: "I will tell him what I bloody well think of him - he should go, he should walk.

"I'm livid. This little git has never even been on the telephone to me. When I find out where he is, I will give it to him. :hehe:

[Red N White Army]

And if there has been failings in the agency's approach to flood defences, then he's probably f**ked.

[Classic Jorge]

Notice how Cameron has stayed well away

[Yesterday Once More]

narrowly defeated a superb guy called George Cunningham in 1983 and 1987...shame

[Classic Jorge]

I'm amazed he got the gig in the first place.

The thing is, The Environment Agency is just an NDPB, a quango if you will, who report to DEFRA so the ultimate responsibility relies with Owen Patterson.

Of course, having an Environment Minister who is a rabid climate change denier looks really good when half of Somerset is a paddy field.

[7evens]

The dept presumabgly has a finite budget, One year it's 10 below and people yell at you at the run down saltash stocks, A heatwave and the ensuing hose pipe ban, followed by the call for de-salination plants.
Rain and it's all about dredging and flood defenses.

It's their job of course but the remit does have a large element of a spinning a roulette wheel about it.

[Classic Jorge]

Their primary role is for the protection of wildlife habitat, they arent really responsible for infrastructure, that's DEFRA's job.

[Red N White Army]

But because there is a CEO, he'll be the one that gets it in the neck, not Patterson. Who has to be the least environmentally friendly Environment Secretary ever! Which helped me last year, but still.

[Classic Jorge]

It's a massive straw man

[Luis Anaconda]

[Ashberto]

:driving:

[7evens]

[Berni]

The Somerset Levels (as the name suggests) are a flood plain.

So see if you can guess what happens when it rains a lot?

[Classic Jorge]

http://planetxcontrolroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/gmk-poster.jpg

[PSRB]

[Classic Jorge]

thrones4U?

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/4/1391531122961/Prince-Charles-sits-on-a--011.jpg

[Sir Charlie of Nicholas]

wd King Alfred.

[PSRB]

[Snin]

climate warming..oops ..climate change oops ..climate tax..loving twunts ? eh..not the fact its just a wet winter and people build on flood planes ? eh ? ffs

[Ashberto]

[Snin]

and essex was a lake with some islands..but ooohhh nooooo its the climate change again TAX EVERYTHING! cnuts

[Berni]

antediluvian (probably a slightly loaded term in this case, but hey), hand-carved chair rather than a nice, metal and canvas fold-up job. The old luddite.

[Ashberto]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/archive/b/ba/20070523115430!Cornholio.jpg

[Classic Jorge]

to be fair, he's the nicest man in politics

[Classic Jorge]

I thought it was shrewd to pick such a buoyant chair

[Red N White Army]

[Berni]

And I don't think you have a dog in that fight at all, do you?

[Red N White Army]

Even smiled when someone stabbed him

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

[7evens]

There will be hog roasts and much merriment amongst the morris dancers.

http://www.electricsheepmagazine.co.uk/features/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/thewickerman_lordsummerisle.jpg

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

I was astonished that any of the main parties actually had enough grass-roots support these days to do that sort of thing. Anyway, I took his pamphlet and said that I had voted for his man last time on personal rather than party grounds, and he said "yes, quite a lot of people do that". wd JC imo.

[Classic Jorge]

Though if your environment minister is a flat out climate change denier, who even denied any rise in sea levels were possible a year or two back, then it looks f**king awful right now.

Luckily the staunchly pro-tory press wont point this out though, or else it could be really bad.

[Ashberto]

I would have thought that people with prejudices about this sort of thing could work it out from there.

[Snin]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

Regardless of the facts, this is politics remember, him standing there in waist high waders and flood water up to his thighs, and denying climate change is an issue would not be the best message.

[Snin]

If one thing more than any other is used to justify proposals that the world must spend tens of trillions of dollars on combating global warming, it is the belief that we face a disastrous rise in sea levels. The Antarctic and Greenland ice caps will melt, we are told, warming oceans will expand, and the result will be catastrophe.

Although the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only predicts a sea level rise of 59cm (17 inches) by 2100, Al Gore in his Oscar-winning film An Inconvenient Truth went much further, talking of 20 feet, and showing computer graphics of cities such as Shanghai and San Francisco half under water. We all know the graphic showing central London in similar plight. As for tiny island nations such as the Maldives and Tuvalu, as Prince Charles likes to tell us and the Archbishop of Canterbury was again parroting last week, they are due to vanish.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change. And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".


When running the International Commission on Sea Level Change, he launched a special project on the Maldives, whose leaders have for 20 years been calling for vast sums of international aid to stave off disaster. Six times he and his expert team visited the islands, to confirm that the sea has not risen for half a century. Before announcing his findings, he offered to show the inhabitants a film explaining why they had nothing to worry about. The government refused to let it be shown.

Similarly in Tuvalu, where local leaders have been calling for the inhabitants to be evacuated for 20 years, the sea has if anything dropped in recent decades. The only evidence the scaremongers can cite is based on the fact that extracting groundwater for pineapple growing has allowed seawater to seep in to replace it. Meanwhile, Venice has been sinking rather than the Adriatic rising, says Dr Mörner.

One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria.

[Classic Jorge]

[Snin]

and just need telling what to do..dumb fecking thick twunts

[Berni]

We have a castle and everything. Well, we don't own it anymore. Cromwell (well, Ireton, actually) pretty much ruined things for us, but that was fair enough. We were stupid to try and oppose him, really. Should have just gone proddy and we'd have been sitting pretty.

[Classic Jorge]

You can see the whole 'danelaw' thing writ large up here. My other half is a very germanic looking ginger lass who is clearly built for farm work.

[Classic Jorge]

[71 Guns - channeling the spirit of Mr Hat]

[Berni]

[Ashberto]

rather than just a nouveau upstart like the rest of us.

[Berni]

[PSRB]

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

The records of my forebearers tend to go only back as far as newly arrived immigrants or the workhouse.

[Berni]

[Berni]

fairly clear, but even so there's a degree of surmise.

[Snin]

or so..welsh to the core on dads side..mums mainly welsh but bit of french & somerset thrown in mix by look of it..
on my dads side this is my great great great etc x 5 or so greatmother..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima_Nicholas

:-)

[Mo Britain less Europe]