So if Chelsea do sell Mata to Utd do we see this as a sign of them trying to

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Meet the FFP requirements? I still don't think they'll sell him to Utd mind you. They wouldn't loan us Ba ffs.

[Ashberto]

[Billy Goat Sverige]

Could've seen it happening after a lengthy period abroad but not now.

[Classic Jorge]

[Rich]

reason fans think it won't work is because they are too simple to understand that it doesn't come fully into effect until 2015.

[The Tony]

it could also be a sign that Jose et al don't rate United as a force anymore.....compared to letting us have a much needed striker.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Lord Roose Bolton]

Dragging it out as long as possible, leaving them to panic buy

[R.C. Celebrating the return of Trophies]

he's done with UTD, we still have to have one more go.
By selling Mata to them now he strengthens them in time for them to face both us and city while at the same time shifting an established star out sending a message to the others...my way or highway. Clever little monkey

[Brentwood]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeDV3P9IEAASqJx.jpg

[Ashberto]

Anyway, how can he not fall out with RA again at some point?

[7evens]

and then goes on to win nothing.

[Luis Anaconda]

[Ashberto]

the same.

Abramovitch just has to sell himself a box for a billion pounds and job done.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

The most retarded thing I've ever heard.

[Rich]

They aren't - I hope you understand that.

Read this, and pay particular attention to the 'questionable sponsorship deals' and 'potential loopholes' section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Financial_Fair_Play_Regula tions#Premier_League (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Financial_Fair_Play_Regulations#Premier_Leagu e)

[Rich]

my link explains. So he can buy a box for £50billion if he likes - it makes no difference.

City also cannot rig up the world's biggest sponsorship deal from a company owned by or afiliated to the owners of the club.

See this: To review such practices, UEFA accountants can review related company deals that might be from a sister company or parent company's subsidiary. Manchester City's deal with the Qatar group falls under such reviews.

The majority of football fans have not done much, if any research into the actual rules of FFP and how they work. You may or may not be one of these people.

[7evens]

and they can't use him in thei games against Chelsea.
Everton have had some decent results against the top clubs this year.
It's another element of why the PL should look a bit closer at the rules surrounding loans.

[Classic Jorge]

It's quite simple, the richer someone is the less the rules apply to them.

Your whole argument relies on the iron will and incorruptible nature of Sepp Blatter.

[Rich]

I am telling you that it will work and has to work. There is too much at stake for UEFA for it not to.

I work with a Chelsea fan and this has outlined the fact that different club's fans have different views. He tells me that they need to make hay whilst the sun shines because from 2015 they are not going to be able to have the sort of squad they have now.

I'm sure that the same applies to City fans. Although they're northern and so probably haven't even bothered to listen to what FFP actually is.

['Neg]

[Brentwood]

Then what hope does Abromovich Sheikh M have?

[Ears are alight]

Oh.

[Classic Jorge]

You're telling me the most expensive lawyers that money can buy will be bested by the inscrutable probity of one of the most bent men in world football?

Yes, let's talk about it in 2015

[Brentwood]

Are we allowed to use the profit from that shop on our FFP balance sheet?

Can an Abramovich owned company buy an expensive, profitable golf course in Spain, rename it "La-mpard Manga" which sells Chelsea branded golf equipment and transfer the ownership at a minimal cost to CFC? Can the profits from that then be used on the CFC balance sheet?

Could we have used the sale of the Highbury flats on our balance sheet? Why would this be allowed? Because bricks and mortar used for football purposes used to stand there? In that case, can CFC set up an office in an expensive area which is going to be knocked down and sold for a lot of dosh?

[Ashberto]

on the basis of their 'fantastic' sponsorship deal. Or maybe Roman's fed up with spunking the cash and wants to rein things in now that there are even bigger sharks than him in the pool.

I really hope for Arsenal's sake that you're right and FFP will actually be enforced. I can only believe it when I see it though.

[Billy Goat Sverige]

[Classic Jorge]

[redgunamo]

[Rich]

[Brentwood]

is because they get the chance to meet ex player Lampard who'll show them how to play golf and sign some shirts. Why shouldn't the profit from this business venture count?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Good man BGM.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

That being the value of this deal, allegedly 40m whereas ours was literally peanuts. Two large bags of.

Mata will 100% be sold in the summer so why not take 40m now, and then spend it.

[Classic Jorge]

The fact that the powerful are also rich, and there's a direct correlation between power and wealth, is a complete and utter coincidence.

Correlation does not mean causation.

[Snin]

[Ashberto]

but I didn't see where it explained how the authorities would enforce FFP despite these loopholes. The article only really outlines that the loopholes existed and that Man City were exploiting them.

So "Some forums have expressed concern at" and "Other commentators pointed to actual and possible loopholes"

It does say that "UEFA accountants can review related company deals" but it also acknowledges the "potential for legal action to overturn the legislation".

[Peter]

[Ashberto]

http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?S=26817e77424bf8e34d 56497fb37dea85&SQ=ea280d1dbbabbdbdf04a71072657cba0&t =search&srch=%22most+retarded%22&btn_submit=Search&a mp;field=all&forum_limiter=&search_logic=AND&sor t_order=DESC&author= (http://www.awimb.com/fudforum/index.php?S=26817e77424bf8e34d56497fb37dea85&SQ=ea280d1dbbabbdbdf04a71072657cba0&t=search&srch=%22most+retarded%22&btn_submit=Search&field=all&forum_limiter=&search_logic=AND&sort_order=DESC&author=)

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Especially when that player is going in a few months anyway.

[Peter]

For three months so thst he can help them best your otherr ivals, but not you, there is at least a twisted, desperate logic there.

Selling the brilliant player to a rival means he plays against you next season. Makes far less sense

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Hardly the end of the world.

The whole selling a player to a rival is an issue for supporters, I imagine it is less so for the clubs as once they decide a player is dispensable then it is often a business decision from there on.

[Peter]

Next you will be trying to convince him that the police are as capable of lying about shooting a black bloke as they are about what a conservative politician may have said.

Stop f**king with his head :-)

[Classic Jorge]

His butler's, valet's and footman's lives, not so much.

[Peter]

Otherwise i would agree. Clubs with money will buy another good player from somewhere else.

This whole spurs thing. The fury at Real for selling us ozil, them not selling holtby in case it made ot easier for us to get draxler. Must be *******s.

[Brentwood]

hardly shows that he has done as much research into FFP as he suggests

Selling shirts at a shop? Yes. A golf course in Spain? No. (n/t) By: Rich on 22-Jan-2014 - 12:01:pm

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]