I feel that, in a small way, I was the catalyst for this trend

[Monty91]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/us-jewish-paren ts-question-circumcision (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/us-jewish-parents-question-circumcision)

[Classic Jorge]

[Guns 'n' Roses]

this is why Jesus allegedly was born on the 24/25th of December. Coz the circumcision day is more important than the birthday and the Christians wanted it to end on 1st January and mark the beginning of the new year. I say 24th/25th as the jewish day lasts from evening to evening, not midnight to midnight, I understand.

[Berni]

severe body shame issues related to genitalia, hair and menstruation (particularly odd since he invented the body in question).

When added to his tendency towards sadism (Lot, Abraham and Isaac, etc) and mass murder (the flood, the plagues of Egypt, etc), you have to conclude that - had he not been an omniscient deity - he'd have been locked up quick smart.

[Monty91]

but I'm certainly pleased to have reached an unequivocal decision to not have my own son circumcised.

[Berni]

mutilation. You cannot rationally argue against that.

[Monty91]

from its people" he paused, looked around and said "Cut off...get it?....is this thing on?"

[Guns 'n' Roses]

[Classic Jorge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnd_JOp-eBE

That said, Krishna appearing to both sides leaders just as theyre about to have a tear up, and f**king with their heads, in the bhagavad gita is also arch deity based wrongness.

[Classic Jorge]

[Monty91]

You know full well that term is too heavily loaded to be applied to a practice that is essentially harmless and has (albeit subjective) cosmetic and hygiene benefits.

I do not know a single circumcised man who believes they have been mutilated. Does that not count for something?

[Classic Jorge]

http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/

[Berni]

Plus, of course, he's omniscient, so asking 'is this thing on' is pretty damn rhetorical.

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

[Monty91]

Everyone on that forum was probably circumcised by an 87 year old rabbi with cataracts.

[Witharby 2-3 weeks]

[Monty91]

[Dutch Gooner]

[Berni]

The fact that you and your anecdotal chums can successfully kid yourselves does not constitute a valid argument.

Someone unnecessarily hacked at your ***** with a knife when you were a baby. If you don't think that's odd, the only conceivable reason is that you have been socially conditioned not to.

[Berni]

And Americans are just weird. Have you seen their teeth, ffs?

[Monty91]

So you honestly believe what when I say I am entirely happy to be circumcised I am in denial over the savage horror that has been inflicted upon me?

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

On this occasion I doubt Monty allowed an unskilled back street stranger loose on his cock.

[Berni]

I think it's human nature to treat as normal that which is all they've ever known because to do otherwise raises uncomfortable questions.

[Classic Jorge]

At the very least it makes having a tug more difficult.

That's just not right.

[Berni]

not a mutilation because it's been done professionally?

Don't think this argument stands up, sw?

[Monty91]

foreskin actually falls off about a week later. £700, bish bash bosh, job’s a good’un. Kid hardly batted an eyelid.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I think they are dirty *******s for even contemplating the scenario.

Dirty spurs supporting volvo estate driving tight fisted *******s to a man.

[Monty91]

ever known when that thing has absolutely no tangible disadvantages.

And in the case of circumcision, is cosmetically preferable (not only in the eyes of its owner, but to many prospective sexual partners), and is more hygienic (by definition, since you have less to clean).

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

A voluntary medical procedure but if carried out correctly I don't see it as mutilation.

Now I am not seeking the dictionary definition of same, but to me the use of mutilation suggests something f**ked up and at very least again a person's will.

[Berni]

Doesn't cost £700, though.

[Classic Jorge]

Mine's got me into all sorts of trouble, and due to it's length and girth is a bugger to clean.

[Berni]

It is de facto therefore being done against the child's will.

And against its willy, for that matter.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

[Berni]

And again your evidence re: sexual partners is wholly anecdotal and doesn't stand up to a moment's scrutiny.

And the hygiene argument is medically groundless and logically absurd (those quadruple amputees must be grateful how clean they are, eh? :hehe: )

[Berni]

[7evens]

My old man had the chop from his local Rabbi. Think it was a hygene belief back then ?

[Monty91]

subjective perceptions? Pffff!

[Berni]

[Monty91]

[PSRB]

[Red N White Army]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Monty91]

[Monty91]

circumcise his son and I’m still getting it in the ear :-(

Do I not at least deserve some credit for breaking the cycle within my own family of what I acknowledge is an unnecessary practice?

[Bergkamp's Brain]

[Curly]

[Berni]

You're the one employing euphemistic sophistry, not me.

[Berni]

Semitism to deploy against you.

Now, about Israel...

;-)