A police officer has admitted lying about what Andrew Mitchell said in plebgate

[Rich]

He tries to besmirtch of the Chief Whip and it will end up costing him his job. What a prat.

[Berni]

out of order and can't be allowed. Coppers need to remember their f**king place imo.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Ashberto]

[Rich]

of the Tory party who are now really turning things around after the complete and utter state Labour got us into.

[Brentwood]

I'm surprised by how many more white people they kill than black wons

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/26/article-1315288-0B5A02F4000005DC-172_964x1307.jpg

[Classic Jorge]

I suspect the root of the beef might actually have been about them cutting their jobs a fair bit. Dont worry though, Boris is getting them a water cannon so they've cheered up a bit now.

[Classic Jorge]

Probably fell down the ground floor stairs

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

It is the business of the police to protect us from such people. I don't particularly care how they do it. Anyway, Duggan's sort know the rules and can't complain if they end up on the wrong end of a bullet. Live by the sword, etc.

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

Also, if police are shooting people dead at point blank range when they arent even armed - dont forget the magic gun somehow teleported 20 yards away - the I'd suggest the people we need protecting from arent 'people like duggan' they are the met.

[The JBear]

trust that they jury of our peers, with the knowledge that they were given, are correct or else the entire justice system is a farce and there's only anarchy left.

[Brentwood]

I can't remember many riots or mention of race when that white lawyer was shot dead in Chelsea

[Brentwood]

was that he probably threw it out of the window, and as it rolled down an embankment it ended up 20 yards away

[Rich]

has proved that.

I am personally glad that they shot him because he was clearly a grave danger to the public.

[Classic Jorge]

I'm not sure how it could have gotten 20 yards away, and through windows which weren't open, without anybody seeing it actually be thrown.

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

Especially from inside a car with closed windows.

[Berni]

to poor, innocent Duggan, seen here with his two pals - both of whom have been convicted of shooting people. Nice.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7pExRy2isfs/US0D3FIpPTI/AAAAAAAAAxE/d8ejbD3WHkA/s400/Duggan.jpg

[Luis Anaconda]

slightly worse than making assumptions on a court case where evidence was presented over three months based on pickings hand-fed to you by the Guardian

[Classic Jorge]

[Rich]

[Berni]

killing if he wasn't holding the gun when shot?

So presumably police officers in potentially life-threatening situations should always wait until they see an actual gun definitely pointing at them (being fired, ideally) by a known criminal whom they know to have acquired a firearm illegally (a fact that is beyond dispute)with the presumable intention to use it at some point before dispatching him?

You ask a lot, I think.

[Luis Anaconda]

have truly annoyed me. You don't think I enjoy siding with Rich do you?

[Mc Gooner]

Is it just me or is that not asking for trouble? :shrug:

"That nasty SO19 policeman didnae give my brother/son/husband/uncle the benefit of the doubt that the item in his hand might be fake and incapable of hurting anyone" :rolleyes:

[Peter]

We are happy to shoot people for that now are we?

When did we all decide this? I mean, an arse like you working in the nhs represents a danger to the public. Should we shoot you?

[Peter]

Is one of the reasons he left.

Strange times....

[Peter]

Actually have a sword?

Or is 'living by the sword' in this instance simply being from tottenham and not being white?

[Snin]

kid..so may as well execute you as well then ? As you tick all the worthless scum boxes too going by your reasoning ?

[Classic Jorge]

Can someone be shot on the basis that someone else, and lets not forget the source of the information here, has said they have a gun? Doesnt that feel a little bit flimsy at best?

Extrapolate that a bit, apply it to some other possible situations, and I think you'll see that if it is legal then perhaps it shouldn't be. The thing for me is that they didnt see him dispose of the gun even though there were two cars right by him, it doesnt stack up.

Still, it does keep the police's unblemished record - through 333 deaths in custody and 33 deaths from armed police - of not one single conviction.

Well done Sting and the boys.

[Classic Jorge]

[Snin]

[Berni]

Why do you think he'd acquired said firearm? Was he a collector, perchance? :hehe:

[Classic Jorge]

"WHERE THE f**k IS THE GETAWAY DRIVER?!?!?!"

"Uuuuuh, he just round corner, be there in five minute, mate"

[Peter]

This is an amusing thread isnt it.

The scrupulously honest police force were right to shoot the black bloke but wrong to lie about the conservative politician.

The left wing bit is just too funny to think about. :-)

[Classic Jorge]

I do appreciate the right's efforts in upping their game in the ridiculousness stakes though. The left have been far ahead of them for too long in this regard.

[Peter]

The mobile phone didnt do the job did it.

His mistake was chucking it through a closed window and down a steep embankment. You aint going to kill anyone from there mate.

[Peter]

Not happy at all :banghead:

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[Berni]

hand, yes. Of course they do. Otherwise they'd have to wait until he'd actually used the gun before apprehending him for its possession. Given the intelligence they had, they had to deploy armed police officers and those officers were well within their rights not to take any chances.

[Peter]

And berni doesnt approve?

f**king hell :hehe:

[Peter]

Then cover up the answers.

[Berni]

[Berni]

straight about what he'd done with the gun? If anything, that discrepancy makes the story more rather than less believable.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

No dude who strokes around carrying an illegal firearm is of value to society.

That is not making a judgement about his character or values, it is a fact.

f**k him.

[Classic Jorge]

More than one witness confirmed that they didnt look anywhere else for the gun and went straight to the embankment/cliche'd grassy knoll.

[Peter]

It really comes to down to the level of confidence you have in the police. When it comes to mistakes their record in owning up is as bad as most referees.

[Peter]

*******s who were satt here patiently waiting to buy their drugs that day.

The criteria for not being shot dead by the police never used to be based on your value to society.

[Classic Jorge]

..of any sort of legal recourse is?

[Berni]

If you acquire an illegal firearm, you are ipso facto a threat to society. Surely you can't possibly deny that?

[Berni]

If not, they clearly weren't all that sure and if so, they were clearly not felt to be reliable by the jury. Or are you suggesting the jury are somehow in on this?

[Snin]

? ****..you f**k off..I was just pointing out your usual gaping fecking holes in your judgemental ramblings of bollox..dont judge other people who have been killed that you dont know if you dont want abuse back about your life..so grow up and ship out

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Perhaps return to education or a YTS scheme, even to partake in some charity work for the community.

Now he is dead and while I feel a degree of sympathy for his family, as I do in the event of any bereavement, I feel none for this chap.

f**k him.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

It's a ridiculous term to use and one you should be ashamed of.

A 'trigger happy' policeman would spend the day cruising around N17 with his window down releasing rounds into the air with complete abandon, wild west style.

[Berni]

[Classic Jorge]

As I say, the issue wasnt sufficiently scrutinised if you ask me. I dont think the judge set out the correct terms of reference for the inquest. Maybe he came under some external pressure not to, maybe he felt like a lot of you guys, I dont know.

[Classic Jorge]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Vinny Jones character in Snatch was shot 6 times and survived. On this basis the copper did the proper thing, like a striker who follows up and kicks the ball over the line from one yard when it is clearly going over anyway.

Wd copper.

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

[Classic Jorge]

Also, I like how SW mentioned a film as his justification and I'm the one accused of being overdramatic.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Drug dealer with gun shot dead in London.

I cannot think of many subjects I genuinely could give less of two f**ks about. I just enjoy it when you get up on your high horse and make a c**t of yourself.

[Luis Anaconda]

but I take your point about sw :hehe:

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Great film.

[Classic Jorge]

The fact remains that the police lied, they lied to the media and the IPCC.

The independent police complaints commission – briefed by the police – told the media that Duggan had fired at police officers. He hadn't.

The officer told the inquest that he fired because he could see a gun in Duggan's hand. The jury says there wasn't one.

[Classic Jorge]

Mike Reid :bow:

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

I genuinely couldn't give two f**ks.

[Berni]

may be a bit disturbed. I'd really rather not have anything further to do with you. You were a figure of fun at first, but you've become distinctly sinister.

I will not be responding to any further posts by you in future, so save yourself the bother.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Even Jason Statham is good in it.

[Classic Jorge]

[Luis Anaconda]

[CrossGun]

Didn't initial reports have Jean Charles De Menezes jumping over the barriers and running down the escalators in a heavy coat?

Something like that anyway.

[Berni]

It was a coroner. Their terms of inquiry are very different to those of a judge.

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

:wave:

[Classic Jorge]

[Classic Jorge]

[CrossGun]

Forgive me for being cynical. :wave:

[redgunamo]

[Steve Williams - gay for Mark Knopfler]

Too much effort.

Up home tomorrow for the big game, Warrenpoint Town v Chimney Corner in the cup.

Think of me.

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